running count

[borya]

I wonder how hi-lo and hi-opt woold compare to ko if player only use running count to change his playing strategy? I can play using ace 5 count. Now it come time to add litle to my black jack play. I was thinking to use hi-opt becase of best playing corelation.
I Have Devloped plus and minus strategy i think easyest to memorise. Plus strategy. Always doble on 10 and 11. Doble on 9 vs 2-7 , 8 vs 5-6. Hit Until 12 vs 2-6, 17 vs 7-9 And A, 15 vs 10. Soft doubdle A2-A9 vs 4-6 , A6-A7 vs 2-3. Take insuranse. Minus strategy. Double on 11 vs 2-10, 10 vs 2-8, 9 vs 5-6. Hit until 14 vs 2-3, 13 vs 4-6, 17 vs 7-10. No soft double.
But i wonder what woold be best strike number like uston plus minus number be for difrent counting metods hi-opt ko hi-lo?

[Opinion]

Hi Low has a lot of research to back it up and to augment it. Also, in the future if you want to go to a higher count the Halves count is very similar and is an easy transition.

If you are playing mostly shoe games then betting correlation is more important then playing correlation.

[shadroch]

Originally Posted by Opinion

Hi Low has a lot of research to back it up and to augment it. Also, in the future if you want to go to a higher count the Halves count is very similar and is an easy transition.

If you are playing mostly shoe games then betting correlation is more important then playing correlation.

Looks like someone forgot to switch out of Shill Mode before answering.
Hope your play at the tables isn't as sloppy.

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by borya

Plus strategy. Always doble on 10 and 11. Doble on 9 vs 2-7 , 8 vs 5-6. Hit Until 12 vs 2-6, 17 vs 7-9 And A, 15 vs 10. Soft doubdle A2-A9 vs 4-6 , A6-A7 vs 2-3. Take insuranse. Minus strategy. Double on 11 vs 2-10, 10 vs 2-8, 9 vs 5-6. Hit until 14 vs 2-3, 13 vs 4-6, 17 vs 7-10. No soft double.

Are you serious?

[mdlbj]

Not to discount the value of more difficult counts but, they are making movies about people who used a simple yet powerful count system.

I will admit when playing single or double deck I use a different counting method but, for a shoe game, the simplicity and power of Hi-Lo as well as the expected values one gets from it may be the way to go.

I don't see to many theorists being able to put a more difficult counting system into practice with a positive outcome $

[borya]

I like to play double deck. Casinos always think i am progression player. I am not want to change their thinking. If they ever find out i am counting cards they woold only let me play poker. I just want to play my hands litle beter than basic strategy player. But i do not want to use idexes and true count.
If hi-lo is best what is strike numbers?

[callipygian]

Originally Posted by borya

If they ever find out i am counting cards they woold only let me play poker.

You'd be welcome to play at my casino if you used that strategy, whether you counted cards or not.

[blackjack avenger]

Originally Posted by mdlbj

Not to discount the value of more difficult counts but, they are making movies about people who used a simple yet powerful count system.

I will admit when playing single or double deck I use a different counting method but, for a shoe game, the simplicity and power of Hi-Lo as well as the expected values one gets from it may be the way to go.

I don't see to many theorists being able to put a more difficult counting system into practice with a positive outcome $

A higher level count can add about 3% or more to the EV.
If the MIT team made millions then 3% or more of millions is a very large number.

More complex systems lower the time to the long run. The long run numbers are very large so reducing them by 3% or more is desirable.

If you employ fractional Kelly betting then small improvements or advantages are greatly magnified. A 5% improvement can inflate to perhaps a 10% improvement.

Some people may never be able to use effectively a more complex system, others may be able to use a higher system with no real additional effort. With most things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Practice, practice, practice!

[borya]

What wrong whith using difrent strategy for when running count get above specific number and 3rd strategy for when running count get below specific number?

[Diver]

Originally Posted by borya

What wrong whith using difrent strategy for when running count get above specific number and 3rd strategy for when running count get below specific number?

Because too much dificult for other stoopid peebles on team to follow more than one.