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Old April 15th, 2008, 09:12 PM
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Ok well im new to counting cards so please dont laugh at my question. What cards do you count? Do you count all the ones that are visible plus your two that you have? or just all the ones that you can see not your two just one of them. Please help me with this.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 09:20 PM
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Ok well im new to counting cards so please dont laugh at my question.
Nobody will laugh unless you try and push a point that's very obviously wrong. Welcome!

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What cards do you count?
That depends on the system you use. The FAQ has a bunch of different systems listed and is a great place to start.

There are balanced (number of positive cards equals number of negative cards) as well as unbalanced (number of positive cards is greater than the number of negative cards) counting systems, each with their own advantages and disadvantages. There are level 1 systems (+/- 1 only), level 2 systems (+/- 1, +/- 2) and level 3 systems. Level 1 systems are the easiest but level 3 systems are the most accurate.

I use Hi-Lo, which counts 2,3,4,5,6 as +1 and 10,A as -1. It is a level 1 balanced system.

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Do you count all the ones that are visible plus your two that you have? or just all the ones that you can see not your two just one of them. Please help me with this.
You want to count every card you possibly can. This is harder for single-deck games where the player cards are dealt face down (and you might only catch a quick glimpse) and easier for shoe games where player cards are dealt face up.

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Old April 15th, 2008, 11:12 PM
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Default Start your BJ education here...

http://www.gamemasteronline.com/BlackjackContent.shtml

Next, get some books (search this website) and study

Then practice, practice, practice.

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Old April 16th, 2008, 10:13 PM
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Nobody will laugh unless you try and push a point that's very obviously wrong. Welcome!

That depends on the system you use. The FAQ has a bunch of different systems listed and is a great place to start.

There are balanced (number of positive cards equals number of negative cards) as well as unbalanced (number of positive cards is greater than the number of negative cards) counting systems, each with their own advantages and disadvantages. There are level 1 systems (+/- 1 only), level 2 systems (+/- 1, +/- 2) and level 3 systems. Level 1 systems are the easiest but level 3 systems are the most accurate.

I use Hi-Lo, which counts 2,3,4,5,6 as +1 and 10,A as -1. It is a level 1 balanced system.

You want to count every card you possibly can. This is harder for single-deck games where the player cards are dealt face down (and you might only catch a quick glimpse) and easier for shoe games where player cards are dealt face up.


Hey thanks for all the help. Yea i saw that movie 21 and now i just feel the need to count cards! lol my friend and i are trying to learn and go to vegas to put are skills to the test, but we have sometiem before we do that. If i have more questions i will be sure to ask you. I also use the Hi-lo system
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Old April 17th, 2008, 10:16 AM
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Default If you're using Hi/Lo...

then you definitely must read/own Professional Blackjack by Wong.

Blackjack Blueprint by Blaine also teaches Hi/Lo.

Blackbelt in Blackjack by Snyder teaches Hi/Lo Lite, and a couple
other counts, which may be of interest, particularly the Zen count.

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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:48 PM
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blackjack blueprint by blaine? How do i get this? Is it somewhere on the site?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:22 AM
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It's a book. You buy it from book stores. Or you borrow it from libraries.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 06:00 AM
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blackjack blueprint by blaine? How do i get this? Is it somewhere on the site?
Yes there is a great selection of books here at this site under books and software sidebar, complete with book reviews. All of which have been approved by our website adminstrator.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 09:09 PM
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OO ok well thanks guys i will check it out.
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