Doubling down on blackjack?

[Counting DJ]

When you get a natural blackjack, and the count is high, is it legal to double down. Obviously, this would increase your profits, but I was wondering if it's legal in most places, or totally unheard of??

Also, do the smaller casinos really break people's knuckles if they catch them counting. Has anybody on this forum every been roughed up by a casino??

[shadroch]

Doubling down on a BJ does not increase your profits,it destroys them.
Most casinos allow it,a few don't,mostly6-5 games.
Casinos have roughed up players. Its pretty rare these days,but it isn't impossible.

[Counting DJ]

You say it destroys your profits, but if the count is good, u are more likely to win, and you win more than just taking a natural... please say what you mean instead of giving a short, cocky remark.

[shadroch]

Do the math yourself. More likely to win what? You are giving up a 100% win rate at 1.5 units to chance winning X at 2 units?
How you going to like it when you double your bet,pull a ten and tie the dealers 5 card 21?
Whats your EV for doubling an 11 in a high count? Whats the EV for an already dealt BJ?

[Counting DJ]

i eat goat poo

[bj bob]

Originally Posted by Counting DJ

You say it destroys your profits, but if the count is good, u are more likely to win, and you win more than just taking a natural... please say what you mean instead of giving a short, cocky remark.

Shad's correct here. Doubling a BJ has tremendous risks. Once you've been dealt a BJ the hand is history. You are due 150% on your original bet and no further risk is involved. Doubling, on the other hand keeps the hand going and moreover requires additional outlay from your BR. There may be a count that allows it, but it would be extremely high and in no circumstance is it worth the exposure of a bewildered dealer calling the play to a BP's attention.
As far as the tone of his response, he answered your questions concisely and without any barbs, so I see no issues here. Besides, if you think these answers were curt, you should have heard him the week after St. Paddy's Day recuperating from that gnarly hangover.

[Mr. Fenner]

Stick with your natural. The worst thing you can do in blackjack is get greedy.

[runningaces]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fenner

Stick with your natural. The worst thing you can do in blackjack is get greedy.

First sentance yes, 2nd sentance huh?

[Mr. Fenner]

Originally Posted by runningaces

First sentance yes, 2nd sentance huh?

Example, you win a double down, think it's your lucky night, and bet the morgage. Okay, I agree maybe get greedy in a +18 shoe

[runningaces]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fenner

Example, you win a double down, think it's your lucky night, and bet the morgage. Okay, I agree maybe get greedy in a +18 shoe

NO, I am def. saying never double down on a BJ! But, maybe I'm confusing being smart with being greedy in the 2nd sentance, I'm saying if an opportunity arises during a shoe I am going to get greedy as hell, not by doubling down on BJ, but by betting like a maniac.