Money Mang. question and a couple of others

[doctorbean]

I am relatively new to blackjack but I recently read Kevin Blackwood's book "Play Blackjack Like the Pros".

My first question is this:
Blackwood discusses how you should allocate money in a six-bet hand using hi-lo on a $10,000 bankroll. He recommends $5 for zero or less, then $20 for 1 in TC, $40 for 2, $60 for 3, $80 for 4, and $100 for 5 and above. But I was thinking of going to Atlantic City because that is closest to me, and in order to play a six deck game there, the minimum bet is $25. So how would altering my bets as follows affect my return:
0-1 $25
2 40
3 60
4 80
5+ 100

I don't have the bankroll to multiply each subsequent bet over 0 by 5 to reflect the spread that is implied. In other words, reflecting Blackwood's original recommendation, based on the requirements of the Atlantic City casinos, should my spread look like this (if I had the bankroll)?:

0 25
1 100
2 200
3 300
4 400
5+ 500

Second question:
I read that the New Jersey Supreme said that casinos cannot throw you out for doing well (cardcounting presumably). So should I worry about being barred from the tables for cardcounting in Atlantic City? If I'm asked to leave or not play, what should I do?

[Dyepaintball12]

Atlantic City casinos CANNOT kick you out for card counting. You do not have to be worried about being kicked out.

However, if they suspect you of counting, they can force you to only bet the same amount every hand. (EX: You can only bet $25 every hand from now on), or they could shuffle up whenever they want.


David

[beat320]

But I was thinking of going to Atlantic City because that is closest to me, and in order to play a six deck game there, the minimum bet is $25.

Go to the Borgata during a weekday and you will find $5-$10 min 6D games

[moo321]

Back count. You don't have the bankroll to play-all at a $25 min table.

[Guynoire]

I like Kevin Blackwood's book but I wish that there were two points that he adressed more directly.

1. Play all is only for single and double deck. Shoes you have to backcount or your return is ridicuously low.

2. Don't overbet or you are guaranteed to lose money in the long run.

[EasyRhino]

3) Don't look like a total square or you'll be booted faster than necessary. A fanny pack? Seriously?

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by doctorbean

ISo how would altering my bets as follows affect my return:

Well, like you say, Blackwood is spreading 1-20 and with a $10K roll probably had a pretty low ROR and an overall advantage 1% or more.
You would be spreading only 1-4 and would only have a 400 unit roll vs his 2000. Your overall advantage plummets and your ROR is probably 50% anyway.

So, yes that 25-500 spread would be the same thing if he had a 2000 unit roll.

[E-town-guy]

Ya you definitely need to maintain a 1-10 spread or even a 1-20 depending on what game you're playing and if you're going to sit and play all counts. If your BR doesn't allow you to do so because the table min is too high you are forced to wong in. Keep in mind that you can spread from $10-100 and still use a 1-20 spread by playing two hands of $100 (and two hands of 40, 60, and 80 at other TCs).

[21forme]

Originally Posted by beat320

Go to the Borgata during a weekday and you will find $5-$10 min 6D games

I'd rather play on the Boardwalk with 1 to 1.5 decks cut off an 8D shoe than Borgata's 2 to 2+ decks cut off a 6D shoe.

It's correct they cannot throw you out or ask you not to play in AC, but they can make it unprofitable by shuffling as soon as you raise your bet, limit your max bet, and put the cut card at 50%.

[doctorbean]

Originally Posted by 21forme

I'd rather play on the Boardwalk with 1 to 1.5 decks cut off an 8D shoe than Borgata's 2 to 2+ decks cut off a 6D shoe.

It's correct they cannot throw you out or ask you not to play in AC, but they can make it unprofitable by shuffling as soon as you raise your bet, limit your max bet, and put the cut card at 50%.

How often do they do this? At the first sign you're a card counter, or if they see you coming in a lot and winning?

If I put my bet down, and they reshuffle, can I take money off my bet before they pull cards out?

Is Borgata's cut off the shoe standard or does it vary by dealer?

Unrelated question: does anyone know where I can get information on basic strategy for the third card dealt in soft hands? I've been using the Basic Strategy Trainer, and I know what to do with a soft two-card hand. But with after the third card is dealt, it's not clear. Sometimes, I think I should hit, and the computer says I should stand; sometimes I hit when, but the computer tells me to stand.