roulette advantage play

Garo

Well-Known Member
#1
Gentlemen-
I saw the History Channel special on a family of roulette players who made millions of dollars. The amazing thing is it didn't take much thought or effort to beat, just time and thousands of observations. Is this possible today? My thinking is that with computing power so cheap that casinos might track what there roulette wheels land on so they know where the bias is? If not this should be easier than ever with those giant baords reading the payouts, you could keep track of them while playing blackjack.
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#2
Spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, plop...you lose!

From what I understand, mostly from the Roulette message boards on AP.com, the game is beatable and can be quite profitable, but the chances of finding a wheel that is biased enough to give you an advantage is very slim. There are opportunities out there, but I imagine that they are very difficult to find or exploit for very long.

Again, this is just what I have read on the message boards. I'm not willing to pay the $250 (or whatever) for the full system so I really don't know how effective it can be under the right circumstances. The author does admit that it takes a lot of time and a lot of dissapointment to find a worthwhile opportunity.

-Sonny-
 
#4
Biased wheel or sector prediction?

My understanding is that roulette AP's predict a number on the fly rather than looking for a biased wheel, and that the kind of wheel you are looking for is not biased but just constructed in a way to have a high probability of accurately predicting the sector.

It seems like you could predict your advantage with a few nights of data taking much better than you could with dice control. Playing the cheapest wheel you can find, make a record of the number you predicted and the number you got, and take as much data as possible. Then calculate how many numbers you were off, plus or minus (plus or minus as the numbers are laid out on the roulette wheel, not as numbers themselves). If you can predict the number at all and you have enough data, you should get a shape something like a normal distribution around zero. In that distribution should be enough information to give you your advantage and variance.
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
#6
Very likely...

Knowing where you work, I would say that there is a high likelihood you are correct. But, have you actually recorded 5-10 thousand spins and tracked them to see? If the answer is yes, just go ahead and pass the data along to our mutual friend :cool:

I don't think you should make too many posts like this... as you can see...

--Mayor
 
#7
MOST wheels have a slight bias...

...stemming from a non-perfect leveling of the base/stator... they are tilted slightly causing the ball to consistently fall from the same section of the track. Sector play, computer-aided or not, exploits this very common bias. zg
 
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