Three Card Poker

moo321

moo321

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I'm trying to figure out how to structure a bankroll to play this game with an advantage. I don't know how many units to divide my bankroll into to get a 5% risk of ruin. PM me if you have any ideas.
 
Sonny

Sonny

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It will depend on a lot of things. What kind of advantage you are getting? Can you play multiple hands without playing blind? How much are you tipping? Are you making any of the side bets for cover? As a rough estimate I would suggest 130-200 units for a 5% RoR, but that can vary. If you can give me more information (PM if you feel more comfortable) I can give you more specific advice.

-Sonny-
 
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nc-tom

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moo321 said:
I'm trying to figure out how to structure a bankroll to play this game with an advantage. I don't know how many units to divide my bankroll into to get a 5% risk of ruin. PM me if you have any ideas.
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Moo just interested to know why you would play this game. would think to get anything close to an advantage or a 5% ROR would take some fairly advanced skills,besides the fact that the game is even more brainless than Pai Gow Poker? Just wondering:)
 
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shadroch

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With its original pay table, it was not all that bad a game. Sadly, that pay table exist in only one casino that I'm aware of- The Pioneer in Laughlin.
Any other place, its a carnival game, imo.
 
UK-21

UK-21

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#5
I've played this game with the online freebies, and it's frightening how fast you can burn your way through a 40 unit bankroll. I've also noticed that I've never been more than 3 units up at any time, and more usually things head straight south and carry on going.

The Wizard of Odds' site shows the edge on this game to be 7 times greater than that of BJ. I looked at it for something else to do when visiting LV in the future, but I can't see it's worth anything other than a couple of fun bets at the end of the evening. I'd be interested to know how you can play this game with an advantage?

Newb99
 
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callipygian

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newb99 said:
I've played this game with the online freebies, and it's frightening how fast you can burn your way through a 40 unit bankroll.
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That's probably because each play is actually 3 times the table minimum - if you're considering the table minimum as 1 unit, you're playing 2 or 3 units per hand.

It's not unlike "$5 craps", where, when you include the odds, you're actually playing a $15 game, not a $5 game.
 
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Martin Gayle

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Moo,
The variance in this game will shock you. I have consistely played with a 3-3.5% +EV and I have moved away from it just because the of the losing streaks. It is terribly frustrating. Finding a teammate helps reduce variance - playing the same table.
 
UK-21

UK-21

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So how do you achieve a +3% edge? In the UK, these games are serviced by Shufflemaster machines (part of Shufflemaster Inc's plan to conquer the world), so is it something to do with the fact that the cards just played won't immediately be recycled? Or is it someway of knowing what the dealer's been given?

I think the Wiz has calculated the HE on this game as -3.3%, so you'd need to swing it over 6% to achieve a +3% HE.

Am I being thick and/or naive?
 
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shadroch

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newb99 said:
So how do you achieve a +3% edge? In the UK, these games are serviced by Shufflemaster machines (part of Shufflemaster Inc's plan to conquer the world), so is it something to do with the fact that the cards just played won't immediately be recycled? Or is it someway of knowing what the dealer's been given?

I think the Wiz has calculated the HE on this game as -3.3%, so you'd need to swing it over 6% to achieve a +3% HE.

Am I being thick and/or naive?
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Each hand is dealt from a fresh deck, so cards played last hand are all back in play.
 
UK-21

UK-21

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I'd gathered that. So this is about persuading the dealer to wear a highly polished pair of specs or chrome finished tie and having the lights in the right place? Or only playing on a table being dealt by your nephew you have just lent a thousand bucks to?

:)
 
Sonny

Sonny

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newb99 said:
So this is about persuading the dealer to wear a highly polished pair of specs or chrome finished tie and having the lights in the right place?
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You're on the right track. A sloppy dealer or a malfunctioning shuffler can give you an advantage if you know how to play it.

-Sonny-
 
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callipygian

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newb99 said:
playing on a table being dealt by your nephew you have just lent a thousand bucks to?
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I realize this was probably a joke, but I just wanted to make sure you realize that this is illegal. As in, if caught, you (and your nephew) will be detained against your will, your chips confiscated, and you will be turned over to the police.

Holecarding deals with taking advantage of opportunities that the dealer has given to you, not creating these opportunities.
 
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