Who here has...

[Stevel96a1]

Doubled their initial stakes of 100 units? assuming $10-100$ or doubled their bankroll of 10k to 20k?
i have tuns of questions for you.
did you have any heat from the pitboss??
did you do it under atlantic city rules 8 decker h17 no Surrender?
did you lose 1/3 of your bankroll before doubling?
did you play thru every shuffle?
did you back count?
did you go every day or once a week??
i tried card counting in atlantic city back counted 99% of the shoes i played
my results 90+,+85,+70,
next week lost 600$ i ended -600 +245 = -355$ loser i can not imagine max bets would be 3500$ if it were 100$ bills not 10$ bills
yea nothing special happened to me i won, i lost and i pushed over hours and hours of play of strictly playing positive shoes.

i read almost every post on this site dating back over 15 years ago, and no ones story ever the same or they didnt tell all details

also what count did you use? i used K3 but my simulations show KO is way more accurate and less violet towards the bankroll

so any reply would be grateful ty

 

[Stevel96a1]

cmon anyone? dont leave me hangin this is a legitimate question, GronBog? Zenking? Lucky Larry? Hell even Don should respond to me if he played BJ

 

[Rebecca C]

Doubled their initial stakes of 100 units? assuming $10-100$ or doubled their bankroll of 10k to 20k?
i have tuns of questions for you.
did you have any heat from the pitboss??
did you do it under atlantic city rules 8 decker h17 no Surrender?
did you lose 1/3 of your bankroll before doubling?
did you play thru every shuffle?
did you back count?
did you go every day or once a week??
i tried card counting in atlantic city back counted 99% of the shoes i played
my results 90+,+85,+70,
next week lost 600$ i ended -600 +245 = -355$ loser i can not imagine max bets would be 3500$ if it were 100$ bills not 10$ bills
yea nothing special happened to me i won, i lost and i pushed over hours and hours of play of strictly playing positive shoes.

i read almost every post on this site dating back over 15 years ago, and no ones story ever the same or they didnt tell all details

also what count did you use? i used K3 but my simulations show KO is way more accurate and less violet towards the bankroll

so any reply would be grateful ty

Are you asking about one session or a longer time? Anyone who has played for a while has won over 100 what you call units or they wouldn't be playing anymore. I prefer to count dollars.

did you have any heat from the pitboss?? Sometimes
did you do it under atlantic city rules 8 decker h17 no Surrender? Not very often
did you lose 1/3 of your bankroll before doubling? Don't remember, but think not
did you play thru every shuffle? Sometimes
did you back count? Sometimes
did you go every day or once a week?? Different locations as my regular job allows, never on a definite schedule.
also what count did you use? Hi-Lo

 

[Stevel96a1]

session to session or week to week or year to year works fine as long as i can divide by the hours.
i dont think anyone plays atlantic city rules professional level, stabworld lost 45k$ cold hard cash there i think.

also were you mobile??

 

[Stevel96a1]

i find it very hard to believe you won 10grand or more with those "sometime answers" my sims show you have to bet BIG and have to play Thru each shuffle to reach the long run and punch in the hours needed to obtain 10k$ or 100 max bets.

again i guess its still possible the way you sometimes did it...

 

[Rebecca C]

i find it very hard to believe you won 10grand or more with those "sometime answers" my sims show you have to bet BIG and have to play Thru each shuffle to reach the long run and punch in the hours needed to obtain 10k$ or 100 max bets.

again i guess its still possible the way you sometimes did it...

Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were referring to any 100 so-called units, not just ten dollar units. My play isn't red chipping, I wouldn't have the time or patience for it. In any event, winning 100 small bets is not a big deal. For some people, that's just five big bets. That can happen in one shoe. But 100 $10 bets = $1,000, not $10,000, so I guess I still don't really follow what you're asking.

You shouldn't play through each shuffle if the shoe goes negative, get away from it.

What's stabworld? Sounds like a horror movie. And what do you mean by "were you mobile??"?

 

[Stevel96a1]

im asking 100 units = 100 max bets = 10k$ cash but i guess 100 units can be anything you like 1$ to 1000$ if your rich enough for that action.
since some seem confused then i will make it simple and ask what was your profit year to year? and what was min bet to max bet? no confusion there hehe

i cant imagine playing blackjack without playing thru most honest shuffles in 8 deck are negative 2/10 will be the average.

stabworld was on another gambling forum claimed to be 4500$ from caesars or ballys but later reported he lost his 45k bankroll but not sure to ac.

and mobile means were you going from casino to casino to casino or just 1 casino altogether?

my blackjack books cant answer these questions but you can!

 

[KewlJ]

cmon anyone? dont leave me hangin this is a legitimate question, GronBog? Zenking? Lucky Larry? Hell even Don should respond to me if he played BJ

Don should respond? Why should Don or anyone else respond? You have demonstrated time and time again, that you are only looking to challenge and discredit anyone who shares any details of successful play, I guess because it doesn't match up with your unsuccessful experiences. While I am only speaking for myself, this grows old real fast. I lose any desire to help or share anything with someone like you.

im asking 100 units = 100 max bets = 10k$ cash but i guess 100 units can be anything you like 1$ to 1000$ if your rich enough for that action.

This is a new and confusing definition of "unit" that we just don't need. Most players equate unit to some sort of minimum wager, which is how it was defined in Stanford Wong's Professional Blackjack. I personally don't care for that definition as it is not accurate with how I play, so I opt for what I refer to as the Munchkin/bigplayer definition of unit, which is the amount wagered per increment of advantage. This just makes more sense to me and it allows the minimum wager to be just that....the minimum wager (and a fraction of the unit). This way your "unit" remains constant, even when playing different minimum wagers. You seem to be defining unit as "max bet", which I have never seen done before, nor do I care for that definition as I happen to play different max bets, while still playing the same "unit" as per the munchkin/bigplayer definition.

i cant imagine playing blackjack without playing thru most honest shuffles in 8 deck are negative 2/10 will be the average.

I need translation on this one. What the hell is an "honest shuffle"? What is that 2/10 negative? 2 in 10 shoes go negative maybe?

stabworld was on another gambling forum claimed to be 4500$ from caesars or ballys but later reported he lost his 45k bankroll but not sure to ac.

Stabworld from Wizard's site about 5-6 years ago? Wasn't he the guy who against my and practically everyone else's advise was going to take cash advances from his credit card to use as a blackjack bankroll? Yikes!

Besides that rather poor financial strategy, if memory serves, Stabworld clearly demonstrated he was ill-prepared knowledge-wise, in addition to financially for what he was proposing. If stabworld's experiences didn't work out to a positive conclusion, it would have surprised no one, except maybe him.

There are a number of people running around on several forums blaming me (and trolling me) because their blackjack experiences didn't work out as they planned. They some how think, that my sharing of my experiences for the last 12 years, was encouragement for others to follow or attempt serious/professional play. I never encouraged, nor certainly never intended to encourage anyone to do so.

Serious and/or professional blackjack play both are still possible today, despite claims to the contrary. It isn't brain surgery. The math basically works the same as it did 30 years ago, but a player today may have to tweek some things to account for poorer conditions, like escaping at least some of the negative counts and/or ramping up quicker. But it is still the same math. Nothing new and nothing all that complicated. But that said, it does take some knowledge, preparation, discipline and a game plan. I am highlighting this because maybe this has been my mistake for the last decade on these forums. Maybe I haven't made it clear that in order to succeed, you have to take it seriously, with adequate preparation, and that includes knowledge, financial and mental, including strong discipline. Stabworld and many others on these forums, who's experiences haven't turned out as they hoped and expected, just never were properly prepared one way or another.

 

[Stevel96a1]

2/8 means you will find 10 shuffles and 2 of them will be positive end for the player (and even with a high count can still end loser)

it isn't just Stabworld, Joel99 and Billythebjkid also players for years using simple counting systems like the KO full and manage to lose their bankrolls.(there are countless names besides i mentioned that i know about and read of that stand out)

i don't blame you or any author of a blackjack book that claims BJ21 can be beaten i just find it daunting, sad and among many other things you can do everything right and my results and their results mirror all our results, i mean you got michael morgenstern on youtube and you can take one smell of him that hes a con artist, you can look at Colins videos from BJ
apprenticeship and you can smell hes a legit play but they both want my money which is fair cause no service is free in this world and Colin has to put out videos each week to make money because hes either underfunded or banned from all casinos or hes on a bad streak not really sure since he brags how he won X amount of money yet he doesnt play.

you could say i could have gave Stevel96a1 any answer and he would still respond the same way , no i just didnt like Rebeccas BS "sometime" answer

 

[Stevel96a1]

i see you didn't comment on my blackjack trips? because you think they are made up or fake? all i can say is thank god i back counted.
that 1-12 spread would have costed me 3550 STEP EASY if i was playing thru each shoe and i would be siting next to Billytheblackjackkid

but im sure you would suggest dont go in underfunded and need atleast 10k cash for safety

yea ok...i lose 6500$ followed by a tap on the shoulder hearing we dont want your action or better yet they shuffle up on me 20% into the shoe every time all while im down 6 grand Thanks Alot!

 

[KewlJ]

Ok let's talk about Billythebjkid. Are you referring to the guy that I "worked with" back when I lived in Philly? He was attending University of Penn at the time? And then briefly posted as Billythebjkid? Or are you talking another Billythebjkid that I am not familiar with? Because I find it VERY strange that only you and Sid the squid keep bringing this name up from years ago. I am guessing you are all one in the same.

 

[Stevel96a1]

yes i am, that guy lost a mere 3800$ to atlantic city and claimed to spend a day with a AP in AC for a few days and he said he was a freak on hunting for best pent. my simulations dont rely too much on pent 65-75 is fine. i am not Sid nor am i Billy but you believe what you wish.

i would love to pay you Ben or Colin or any big name in blackjack 50$ of my hard earn cash granted maybe not alot to you but if you can find a 1,000 more like me that can be a nice little nest egg, just to see week by week or month by month how you actually phsically do it , if your back counting, exiting if count goes bad early in or later on, if you regular a certain casino the questions go on and can only be answered if i physsically see it happen


thats why Joel posted a bet of 50k$ to see if anyone can make a living playing BJ21 year to year and he said 30 grand would be a low wage living but still acceptable i dont have 50k to put up but i would offer 50$ to pay and watch AP's go at it at the tables.

 

[Rebecca C]

KewlJ said it all. No need to spend more time on this thread.

I've been playing parttime for a couple of years now, when my regular job allows. My work schedule is kinda irregular, so I sometimes get an evening and part of a day free in different cities. I'm still learning but making a nice little additional income for myself and I'm having fun doing it. That's all.

 

[Stevel96a1]

all talk but no action every gambling text book claims 90% of gamblers are lifetime losers maybe you are that 10%

i will never know how you did it but my simulations/numbers don't lie

 

[KewlJ]

KewlJ said it all. No need to spend more time on this thread.

I've been playing parttime for a couple of years now, when my regular job allows. My work schedule is kinda irregular, so I sometimes get an evening and part of a day free in different cities. I'm still learning but making a nice little additional income for myself and I'm having fun doing it. That's all.

Nice post Rebecca. I have been reading your posts for a while now on several sites and you seem to have a good head on your shoulders and plenty of common sense. So it is no surprise you are doing well.

And your situation is perfect for blackjack card counting. I have ALWAYS said it works best as a part-time or supplemental gig.

I just don't know where some of these guys got the idea that I ever encouraged anyone to quit a job or not finish an Ivy League education to pursue card counting. It just NEVER happened.

I don't know if it is a handful of guys on several forums or just one or two using many handles, but it is just weird. These guys need to take responsibility for their own decisions and actions. I, nor anyone else twisted anyone's arm to pursue card counting.

 

[Stevel96a1]

im suprised you haven't opened up your own shop yet on youtube Kewlj, many already have done so in the past blackjack Ben and Colin to name one.

no one forces no one to gamble its just mind numbing to hear yea you can win this you can beat that no different from an info commmercial late night trying to sell you book onto how to buy/resell realestate for a profit.

its not one guy its not two guys its combination of people, Billytheblackjackkid was right the casinos get a fresh crop of college kids every year to take on the game some lose a little some lose alot and maybe 1 goes on to play forever with just 1 bankroll.

again for me to know how you did it id have to observe you at the tables each day, im sure that would blow your cover or aid you but im certain you like to go at it alone oh well i doubt you can find 999 more fools like me who would pay you to see how its "done"

 

[KewlJ]

Why do you keep mentioning me with Ben and Colin. I don't know either. Don't believe I have ever even communicated with either. No offense to either, but I have no interest in what they do or don't do on YouTube. If you have an issue with them take it up with them not me.

But whatever issue you have with me, I will give you this one opportunity to air. Tell me how and when I encouraged you to quit your job or whatever you did and follow in my footsteps. And explain to us all how I am responsible for your situation not working out as planned.

And if you can't do so then just shut the fuck up and take responsibility for your own decision.

 

[Stevel96a1]

i hope my negative post sway The Next Jimmtech, Joel,Billy,Stabworld, Aslan, Froggy, and all the others that never posted there end game results i hope the next "billy" is truly prepared to lose his bank and followed by a back off.

as for Stabworld i see nothing wrong with what he did does really matter if it was a loan or not? he operated with a 1-2% edge on every hand regardless if it was a loan or not hows that not advantage play? you Apes are just argumentative for n reason =/
you fuckin asshole paste and copy where i quit my job ??
im sorry you cant cause your just a fruad

if i had the option id flyer your ass to every man known casino if i had your photo


you really need glasses or take reading classes you did not read

no one forces no one to gamble its just mind numbing to hear yea you can win this you can beat that no different from an info commmercial late night trying to sell you book onto how to buy/resell realestate for a profit.

 

[KewlJ]

you fuckin asshole paste and copy where i quit my job ??
im sorry you cant cause your just a fruad

if i had the option id flyer your ass to every man known casino if i had your photo


you really need glasses or take reading classes you did not read

Now you are morphing into Moses. Either way, we are done. I tried to treat you like an adult but you refuse to act like one.

 

[Stevel96a1]

you need to take responsibility for your own decision your enticing everyone to gamble Kewl and there losing there jobs and houses and bank accounts lmao

haha i never lost more than 350$ trying but im sure many many more lost 10x that amount, again where did i say i quit my job?

whos Moses? i really just wish people would take caution before taking up the game know best/worst case scenarios are
if they are happy lossing 4 grand or more followed by a back off then thats their "Deal" pun intended

i do apologize the way i came off tho very sour very sore loser of 350$ smackers of blackjack sorry to say it wasn't ten times that amount(NOT!)
i know theres no guarantee in gambling but it must hurt to lose 6 grand and still be playing a winning game hell Mr Stabby lost 45k playing a winning game but to each his own maybe he if gets access to another 45k he can win it all back =)