IPOD Card Counting

  • Squint

    IPOD Card Counting

    http://www.webtopia.com.au/apps/bjcardcounter.php (Link is dead)
    Has anyone out there used this application? It seems very straight forward on how to use it. It even has options for different counting systems. It has a stealth mode to turn off the screen (you still have to know where the buttons are though). You can even adjust the number of decks. It would be pretty obvious using this sitting at the table, but if you had a person back counting…I would think this could be advantageous. Any info would be appreciated. I don’t post much, but I read the forums often to gain other peoples insight. Thanks.

  • Blue Efficacy

     

    With a name like that, you’re not an EITS are you?

  • Squint

    Eits

    Blue,
    It’s funny, other people have asked me that also. I actually got that nickname when I was in the service. I hated the glasses I was issued, so I didn’t wear them. To be able to see anything, I had to squint. Hence, the name. And it stuck.
    Oh, to answer you question, no. I am not the EITS. I forgot.

  • Blue Efficacy

     

    I could see an Ipod being used for card counting. But the tough part would be reading the screen, you would have to take it out of stealth mode to read the count…

    I could also see casinos banning Ipods. Actually no I couldn’t, surely there are people that like to listen to their music as they piss their money into the slots?

  • Squint

    Ipods

    Yeah, I don’t think they would ban them. In this economy, the casinos are trying to keep the people happy. Don’t make em mad by taking away their music. And that way a person wouldn’t have to listen to the person next to you running their mouth about the buffet or something…

  • Seriously

     

    NRS 465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities. It is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, any device to assist:
    1. In projecting the outcome of the game;
    2. In keeping track of the cards played;
    3. In analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
    4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game, except as permitted by the Commission.

    This is not a tap on the shoulder you’re dealing with, it’s a trip to jail.

  • sagefr0g

     

    Quote: Seriously said:
    NRS 465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities. It is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, any device to assist:
    1. In projecting the outcome of the game;
    2. In keeping track of the cards played;
    3. In analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
    4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game, except as permitted by the Commission.

    This is not a tap on the shoulder you’re dealing with, it’s a trip to jail.

    i guess a basic strategy card might fall under #4.
    lol, i guess even a pencil and paper would be a no, no.

  • ccibball50

     

    I know at the casinos I play at, you cant have anyhing on the table except cigarettes. No phone, no wallet no earpiece, no ipod, nothing. If you pull your phone out they make you step away from the table and wont let you play till you put it up.

  • Squint

    Nrs 465.075

    Seriously…
    Thanks for the reply. Nice to know that law. I kind of assumed that NV would be out. I only get out there about once a yr anyway. I personally am not going to run and get an Iphone just for this program. I was just curious if anyone has or knows anybody that has used it.

  • Seriously

     

    Quote: Squint said:
    Seriously…
    Thanks for the reply. Nice to know that law. I kind of assumed that NV would be out. I only get out there about once a yr anyway. I personally am not going to run and get an Iphone just for this program. I was just curious if anyone has or knows anybody that has used it.

    No problem. When exploring ways to gain an advantage it’s important to remember what that line is drawn whether it be for moral reasons or for practical ones.

    This is also relevant to the discussion:
    NRS 465.088 Penalties for violation of NRS 465.070 to 465.085, inclusive.
    1. A person who violates any provision of NRS 465.070 to 465.085, inclusive, is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished:
    (a) For the first offense, by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, or by a fine of not more than $10,000, or by both fine and imprisonment.
    (b) For a second or subsequent violation of any of these provisions, by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $10,000. The court shall not suspend a sentence of imprisonment imposed pursuant to this paragraph, or grant probation to the person convicted.

  • jay28

    Thats crap, but is this real?

    I watched a TV documentary a while back about real life scams & cons. On the show they claimed they had a BJ computer which could predict the next card(s) with something like 80% accuracy. They claimed it worked by the user entering the cards throughout a shoe to map their location, then after the shuffle, by analysing the new locations of cards in the first couple of decks dealt, it could predict the remainder of the cards in the shoe with high accuracy. It also advised on things like spreading or decreasing the amount of spots played and incorrect plays to manipulate the cards. It done more remedial things like RC & TC, advise on bet spreading, etc. On the show, in a mock casino, they used a back counter to input the data and a big player with relayed information via an earpiece.

    Do advanced BJ computer like this really exist?

  • Blue Efficacy

     

    Quote: Seriously said:
    NRS 465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities. It is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, any device to assist:
    1. In projecting the outcome of the game;
    2. In keeping track of the cards played;
    3. In analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
    4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game, except as permitted by the Commission.

    This is not a tap on the shoulder you’re dealing with, it’s a trip to jail.

    Keep in mind these types of regulations vary by jurisdiction.

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