Bob Neresian on GWAE again.

  • Richard Munchkin

    Bob Neresian on GWAE again.

    Bob will be on again tomorrow 9/29 so if you have questions you want asked post here or at my site or email me or send a carrier pigeon.

    One of the things we already plan on talking about is what rights do we have when playing at Indian casinos and is that different from state to state.

  • Lonesome Gambler

     

    How about the case of the burned Ace by Trump Marina, and the likely result now that the casino is under new ownership. Or is he representing this case (I can’t recall). Does the NJCCC take this kind of cheating seriously, is there a good possibility of successful legal recourse, etc.?

    Looking forward to hearing about rights in Native casinos.

  • Wookets

     

    I’d like to hear about the regulation of gaming on cruise lines such as Royal Caribbean, Carnival, etc. Specifically, who’s responsibility is it, and who would investigate if there was a case of house-cheating?

  • Richard Munchkin

     

    Both great questions. I’ve added them to the list.

  • Jack_Black

     

    Quote: Wookets said:
    I’d like to hear about the regulation of gaming on cruise lines such as Royal Caribbean, Carnival, etc. Specifically, who’s responsibility is it, and who would investigate if there was a case of house-cheating?

    You could read this thread. http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=22058

    I agree with ExGM. I highly doubt a huge corporation would cheat. why would they? they make money hand over fist without cheating.

    btw, I love your facebook page, Richard. although it’s probably not a good idea for me to like it, since I friended casino hosts and dealers. I know I know.

  • suicyco maniac

     

    I’m interested to hear his comments on Tribal casinos. Actually I’m kinda scared to hear what he has to say….. Since you will be talking about tribal casinos do you think you could ask Bob his thoughts on these tribals flyering SS #’s and Drivers license scans all around the country to one and other and also to a few non tribal casinos that are also memebers of their database.

  • 21forme

     

    Richard,
    I’d like to hear about the NV casinos’ right to require ID to cash chips, refuse the cash chips without a “trail” back to a specific table or pit, etc.
    Thanks.

  • Lonesome Gambler

     

    And although you touched on this somewhat during your last interview, it might be useful to discuss the legality of using fake IDs—not old IDs from before having a legal name change done, or IDs with a maiden name, but actual, false identification—to redeem comps at a casino. I’m not aware of any clear-cut answer as to whether or not this may potentially constitute fraud, so I’d like to know what Bob’s interpretation of the law is in this regard.

    It seems that using such an ID with Gaming personnel or police would be unambiguously illegal, but could the same be said for casinos?

  • Wookets

     

    Quote: Jack_Black said:
    You could read this thread. http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=22058

    I agree with ExGM. I highly doubt a huge corporation would cheat. why would they? they make money hand over fist without cheating.

    btw, I love your facebook page, Richard. although it’s probably not a good idea for me to like it, since I friended casino hosts and dealers. I know I know.

    I read over that thread yesterday; it’s what spawned the question in the first place. I’d still like to hear what Mr. Neresian has to say on the subject.

  • AussiePlayer

     

    Just my question from the other day on how the backrooming/86ing issues discussed last show and in his book differ (if at all) in regards to non-US citizens visiting Vegas.

  • nicetrades200303

     

    Quote: Lonesome Gambler said:
    And although you touched on this somewhat during your last interview, it might be useful to discuss the legality of using fake IDs—not old IDs from before having a legal name change done, or IDs with a maiden name, but actual, false identification—to redeem comps at a casino. I’m not aware of any clear-cut answer as to whether or not this may potentially constitute fraud, so I’d like to know what Bob’s interpretation of the law is in this regard.

    It seems that using such an ID with Gaming personnel or police would be unambiguously illegal, but could the same be said for casinos?

    Yes, I would like to echo Lonesome Gambler’s question. More specifically, if I may…say my cousin goes to Vegas and gets a player’s card; I use that card to play at the tables and on slots; will I or my cousin be trouble with the law? How about if I did the same at Indian casinos? Thank you.

  • kewljason

     

    Great show, as usual. Bob N is a wealth of valuable knowledge. Fake Id info was very interesting.

  • Lonesome Gambler

     

    I’ll be listening to this tomorrow—very much looking forward to it!

  • nicetrades200303

     

    Quote: Richard Munchkin said:
    Bob will be on again tomorrow 9/29 so if you have questions you want asked post here or at my site or email me or send a carrier pigeon.

    One of the things we already plan on talking about is what rights do we have when playing at Indian casinos and is that different from state to state.

    Richard, do you have a link to the 9/29 talk with Bob. Could not find it on your website. Thanks.

  • Lonesome Gambler

     

    http://www.bobdancer.com/radio.cfm

    Richard, can you offer any insight to the case that Bob mentions from a tribal casino in MI? If anyone else is familiar with this case and the details are sensitive, please PM me. Thanks!

  • Richard Munchkin

     

    I just got back from Vegas but now the link is up on my site. You can also get it in itunes but not sure how long the delay is there.

    I thought Bob was particularly good this week, and find it interesting his comments about his wife Thea being the one who really does the heavy lifting. I will ask her to come on next time (probably about 6 weeks) but Bob thought it only 50/50 that she would say yes.

    LG I don’t have any extra insight regarding the case in MI. I was shocked and horrified when I heard it. I later thought that what I should have asked is, “Can you appeal a case in a tribal court to any non-tribal jurisdiction?” Also, do the state or federal police enforce a tribal courts decision. I mean what if he just stays off that reservation? Is he safe? Maybe I will have I Nelson Rose on to talk more about both tribal casinos and cruise ships. There is just never enough time with Bob.

    To the person who asked about the Trump Marina case, you will hear that Bob said he couldn’t talk about it because it is his case, but I will ask the person who it happened to if he will come on to discuss the details of what happened and whatever he can tell us about the state of the case.

  • Lonesome Gambler

     

    Quote: Richard Munchkin said:
    LG I don’t have any extra insight regarding the case in MI. I was shocked and horrified when I heard it. I later thought that what I should have asked is, “Can you appeal a case in a tribal court to any non-tribal jurisdiction?” Also, do the state or federal police enforce a tribal courts decision. I mean what if he just stays off that reservation? Is he safe? Maybe I will have I Nelson Rose on to talk more about both tribal casinos and cruise ships. There is just never enough time with Bob.

    If you come across any updates or info on this, I know I personally would be very interested in the details. This was a great episode, by the way. I’ve always enjoyed the show, but it seems like you and Bob have it much more locked in and focused than when Frank was on (although he seems like a nice enough guy).

    Quote: Richard Munchkin said:
    To the person who asked about the Trump Marina case, you will hear that Bob said he couldn’t talk about it because it is his case, but I will ask the person who it happened to if he will come on to discuss the details of what happened and whatever he can tell us about the state of the case.

    Sure, that would be quite interesting! And if you could somehow manage to round up that rapscallion that he hangs out with, I’ll bet you could get a pretty fascinating interview out of it (with a pitch-shifted voice filter, a la the UBT, of course)…

  • Richard Munchkin

     

    Quote: Lonesome Gambler said:
    Sure, that would be quite interesting! And if you could somehow manage to round up that rapscallion that he hangs out with, I’ll bet you could get a pretty fascinating interview out of it (with a pitch-shifted voice filter, a la the UBT, of course)…

    LOL He hasn’t said no, but then again he hasn’t said yes either. Maybe when the new book comes out. Oops. That’s how rumors get started.

  • 21forme

     

    Great show Richard. I found Bob’s cruise ship case very interesting.

  • Lonesome Gambler

     

    Quote: Richard Munchkin said:
    LOL He hasn’t said no, but then again he hasn’t said yes either. Maybe when the new book comes out. Oops. That’s how rumors get started.

    My blank check is already in the mail.

  • Wookets

     

    Great show, keep them coming. I’m very interested in whether or not the MI HC’ing case can be appealed in a non-tribal court. Richard, what do you think the odds of something like this being successfully prosecuted in a non-tribal casino are? Seems extremely unlikely to me.

  • Machinist

     

    Wow, excellent interview.
    I loved his spontaneous rant about the damn casinos getting their act together.
    I personally hope they don’t for a long time. I am looking forward to the day when Bob and I can do some business together. The more we can learn from this guy, the better prepared we will be when a situation arises that can be capitalized upon.
    It’s not ”
    If” I will ever be backroomed or wrongly arrested, but when!!!!! I want to be as prepared as possible as I think a Nersesian Lawsuit would be my finest AP “Play” ever!!!!
    Not so much for money but for my personal satisfaction of seeing them squirm!!!
    I love Bob’s attitude!!!!.

    Machinist

  • Jacob

     

    Quote: Richard Munchkin said:

    …To the person who asked about the Trump Marina case, you will hear that Bob said he couldn’t talk about it because it is his case, but I will ask the person who it happened to if he will come on to discuss the details of what happened and whatever he can tell us about the state of the case.

    Welcome Bob to AC. The big gun will most likely pop up EVs of APs who’ve been done wrong by AC casinos. Perhaps Bob will take on more cases from AC APs, i.e., an AP’s $1,000 comped dollars were confiscated by AC Caesars. AC Caesars’ action is a breach of contract between 2 parties (offeror & offeree). Confiscating the dollars is like stealing money from a person’s savings account; however, AC casinos think they can confiscate “their gifts” against unwelcome guests anytime. What do you guys think?

  • Richard Munchkin

     

    We did talk about this a bit on the first show with Bob. The problem is the amounts are so small that no lawyer will take those cases. But why not try to sue in small claims court?

  • Jacob

     

    Quote: Richard Munchkin said:
    We did talk about this a bit on the first show with Bob. The problem is the amounts are so small that no lawyer will take those cases. But why not try to sue in small claims court?

    I-C. When there is unity, there is power. How about a class action lawsuit (CAL) just to right the wrong? For the past 3 decades, AC casinos have kept on confiscating comped dollars against the unwelcome guests. After Mankodi’s case, I hope Bob will do the CAL, not for the money, but to right the wrong .

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