Current rules and conditions in Edmonton

  • BJ Warrior

    Current rules and conditions in Edmonton

    I’ve heard that, although rules are basically unchanged, pen has deteriorated in the last couple of years. Would appreciate an update. BTW, I realize that pen varies among stores – a rough idea of the available range would be sufficient. Also, since some here may play these games regularly, the SCORE for the average 75% pen 4-deck game ES10 game (which sounds like the most common), would also be helpful.

  • jnrwilliam

     

    Quote: BJ Warrior said:
    I’ve heard that, although rules are basically unchanged, pen has deteriorated in the last couple of years. Would appreciate an update. BTW, I realize that pen varies among stores – a rough idea of the available range would be sufficient. Also, since some here may play these games regularly, the SCORE for the average 75% pen 4-deck game ES10 game (which sounds like the most common), would also be helpful.

    ES10, no hole card in Edm. ?

  • Brock Windsor

     

    Quote: jnrwilliam said:
    ES10, no hole card in Edm. ?

    ES10 correct but Original Bet Only loses against dealer BJ. Not ENHC.
    -BW

  • jnrwilliam

     

    Quote: Brock Windsor said:
    ES10 correct but Original Bet Only loses against dealer BJ. Not ENHC.
    -BW

    thanks.
    how many in Edmonton offer ES10 n any 1 of them r trackable?
    dlr has no hole card ??

  • MetaEdge

     

    I only saw the casino in West Edmonton Mall. They were all 6 deck, machine shuffle and dealt from a shoe. The limits were 10 to 500 I think. No 5 dollar tables except on weekends after 7. 1.5 pen. They didn’t deal a hole card and didn’t offer surrender against aces, so I guess that would be ES10. Is that better or worse then LS?

    If they end up with a natural they only take your original bet.

    Re-splitting aces were allowed. DAS, double any 2 cards. Not sure if there was a limit to any splits or not. The most splits I saw were up to three hands. I would guess a limit of 4 hands though.

    They had a high limits area but I never went in. Not sure what games they have in there.

    That’s all I can remember. Probably could have typed that in a couple lines if I knew all the abbreviations for the rules xD

  • Meistro

     

    Palace in West Edmonton Mall was 10 to 400 when I was there a year ago. They also offered a high limit game of 25-1000 but you had to ask for it basically. .75-1 deck cut off out of 6 very consistent. Also, when I was there they had their shuffle procedure written on the table in tape lol. 2-6, 1-3, 4-5 etc.

  • jnrwilliam

     

    Quote: MetaEdge said:
    I only saw the casino in West Edmonton Mall. They were all 6 deck, machine shuffle and dealt from a shoe. The limits were 10 to 500 I think. No 5 dollar tables except on weekends after 7. 1.5 pen. They didn’t deal a hole card and didn’t offer surrender against aces, so I guess that would be ES10. Is that better or worse then LS?

    If they end up with a natural they only take your original bet.

    Re-splitting aces were allowed. DAS, double any 2 cards. Not sure if there was a limit to any splits or not. The most splits I saw were up to three hands. I would guess a limit of 4 hands though.

    They had a high limits area but I never went in. Not sure what games they have in there.

    That’s all I can remember. Probably could have typed that in a couple lines if I knew all the abbreviations for the rules xD

    ES10 is better as u can surr to 10s which end up a natural.

  • jnrwilliam

     

    Quote: Meistro said:
    Palace in West Edmonton Mall was 10 to 400 when I was there a year ago. They also offered a high limit game of 25-1000 but you had to ask for it basically. .75-1 deck cut off out of 6 very consistent. Also, when I was there they had their shuffle procedure written on the table in tape lol. 2-6, 1-3, 4-5 etc.

    what is the shuffle procedure 2-6,1-3,4-5 ??

  • BJ Warrior

    West Edmonton Mall

    Quote: Meistro said:
    Palace in West Edmonton Mall was 10 to 400 when I was there a year ago. They also offered a high limit game of 25-1000 but you had to ask for it basically. .75-1 deck cut off out of 6 very consistent. Also, when I was there they had their shuffle procedure written on the table in tape lol. 2-6, 1-3, 4-5 etc.

    Hi Meistro,

    Thanks to all who replied in this thread, although it took only 10 months!

    Re Palace in WE Mall, there seems to be a discrepancy between you and the other poster who said pen is 1.5 decks. Are you sure about .75-1.00, or could the other poster be right, because he was there more recently and pen had deteriorated?

    Thanks for any feedback.

    Cheers,

    BJ Warrior

  • MetaEdge

     

    My deck estimation isn’t the greatest. It might have been a little better. But I doubt it was any lower then 1 deck.

  • tuppy

     

    The typical pen in Edmonton is .75.
    In my experience newer dealers give out better pen. pen also varies depending on dealer
    Here is a basic summary on averages and ranges
    casino edmonton/yellowhead 1 deck cutoff 4 deck shoe (range 0.5-1.25)
    baccarat/palace 1.5 deck cutoff 6 deck shoe (range 1-2)
    century 2 deck cutoff 6 deck shoe ( range 1-2.25)
    river cree 1.5 deck cutoff 6 deck shoe (1-2)

  • BJ Warrior

    Confusion

    Quote: tuppy said:
    The typical pen in Edmonton is .75.
    In my experience newer dealers give out better pen. pen also varies depending on dealer
    Here is a basic summary on averages and ranges
    casino edmonton/yellowhead 1 deck cutoff 4 deck shoe (range 0.5-1.25)
    baccarat/palace 1.5 deck cutoff 6 deck shoe (range 1-2)
    century 2 deck cutoff 6 deck shoe ( range 1-2.25)
    river cree 1.5 deck cutoff 6 deck shoe (1-2)

    Hi Tuppy,

    Thanks for posting, but I’m still not clear on what this means. I was asking for the pen on that one 6-deck game only (Palace?) in the mall, which one poster described as 1.25 and another as .75. As far as typical Edmonton pen goes, you say that it’s .75, but then you go on to cite a number of 6 deck games, which are mostly 1.5 pen min.. Which is the truth? Was the .75 figure for a 4-deck game? What is the typical pen for the 6-deck game, and what is the typical pen for the 4-deck game? I say this because, I’ll travel a long way for great (.75 pen, 6 decks), but not for average (1.5) or horrible (2.0). Hope this makes my question clearer.

    Cheers,

    BJ Warrior

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