Over/Under 13 Bet

  • Midnightblues

    Over/Under 13 Bet

    Know of any Casinos in the Midwest other than Mystic that offers the over/under 13 bet?

    Also, if your at a table with over/under 13 betting, would you recommend a hi/lo count or would you recommend using one of Snyder’s over/under 13 as more advantageous?

  • jnrwilliam

     

    Quote: Midnightblues said:
    Know of any Casinos in the Midwest other than Mystic that offers the over/under 13 bet?

    Also, if your at a table with over/under 13 betting, would you recommend a hi/lo count or would you recommend using one of Snyder’s over/under 13 as more advantageous?

    depend on the pen.
    O/U need deep pen.

  • Midwest Player

    Use Crush Count for Over/Under 13 Bet

    Quote: Midnightblues said:
    Know of any Casinos in the Midwest other than Mystic that offers the over/under 13 bet?

    Also, if your at a table with over/under 13 betting, would you recommend a hi/lo count or would you recommend using one of Snyder’s over/under 13 as more advantageous?

    I think its in Wong’s book.

  • Terry4545

    Blue Chip

    Anyone ever played at Blue Chip?

  • bigplayer

     

    Quote: Midnightblues said:
    Know of any Casinos in the Midwest other than Mystic that offers the over/under 13 bet?

    Also, if your at a table with over/under 13 betting, would you recommend a hi/lo count or would you recommend using one of Snyder’s over/under 13 as more advantageous?

    Extinct in U.S. as far as I know because it is so easily exploitable. Played it in Poland in the middle part of the last decade.

  • Blue Efficacy

     

    You would be well advised to use a specialised count to best exploit this game.

  • Midnightblues

     

    Quote: bigplayer said:
    Extinct in U.S. as far as I know because it is so easily exploitable. Played it in Poland in the middle part of the last decade.

    Not extinct. Its available at Mystic Lake in Minnesota

  • Midwest Player

    Over/Under 13

    Ojibwa Casino in Baraga use to have it, but its now long gone.

  • wickss

     

    Quote: Midnightblues said:
    Know of any Casinos in the Midwest other than Mystic that offers the over/under 13 bet?

    Also, if your at a table with over/under 13 betting, would you recommend a hi/lo count or would you recommend using one of Snyder’s over/under 13 as more advantageous?

    Don’t use hi/lo. It’s no good for O/U. Use Wong’s Halves or a specialized count.

  • creeping panther

    Midwest

    Quote: Midwest Player said:
    Ojibwa Casino in Baraga use to have it, but its now long gone.

    Probably due to your excellent Skillz Set?

    Those were the good old days Bro’

    CP

  • BrianCP

     

    Wong has a special count in Professional Blackjack for O/U 13 called “The Crush Count.” He also recommends Arnold Snyder’s article on the O/U 13 bet. You can find that article on his website. You pretty much only need to attack the sidebet with a good count system for it. You can use a reduced spread for a higher EV and lower variance.

    However, being the only casino in the US with the O/U 13 side bet, they know how profitable it can be. They do not tolerate any significant action on it (or so I’ve been told).

  • Midnightblues

     

    Quote: BrianCP said:
    Wong has a special count in Professional Blackjack for O/U 13 called “The Crush Count.” He also recommends Arnold Snyder’s article on the O/U 13 bet. You can find that article on his website. You pretty much only need to attack the sidebet with a good count system for it. You can use a reduced spread for a higher EV and lower variance.

    However, being the only casino in the US with the O/U 13 side bet, they know how profitable it can be. They do not tolerate any significant action on it (or so I’ve been told).

    The max bet on the O/U 13 game is $25.00 I believe. Think I’ll get much heat if I am betting up to $10-15 when the count is right?

  • BrianCP

     

    Quote: Midnightblues said:
    The max bet on the O/U 13 game is $25.00 I believe. Think I’ll get much heat if I am betting up to $10-15 when the count is right?

    You’d have to ask MJMballer….or however that username goes. I’ve only heard about it from other people in the area on this forum.

  • cityman

     

    Quote: Midnightblues said:
    The max bet on the O/U 13 game is $25.00 I believe. Think I’ll get much heat if I am betting up to $10-15 when the count is right?

    Not a whole lot of experience with it, but I did play it with $10 at favorable counts and didn’t experience any heat. Granted, I was losing my hand most of the time, but at least the O/U was helping to balance things. But then again…the security truck did follow me for about a mile as I drove away that night…hmmmmm

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