Twenty-something hits Presque Isle Downs for half-million at BJ

  • NAP

     

    “The casino is not releasing the man’s name or exact age.”

    …because I didn’t give it to them!

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    Just kidding, it wasn’t me.

  • flyingwind

     

    Why did they let him play so long?

  • Billy C1

    Question is——

    It would be interesting to know how someone that age handles that kind of success!

    BillyC1

  • jaygruden

     

    I hope if he’s an AP his identity does not come out but I think it will come out. Unfortunately, a secret can not be kept in Erie, PA…..not possible.

  • aslan

     

    Quote: Billy C1 said:
    It would be interesting to know how someone that age handles that kind of success!

    BillyC1

    I don’t want to know. Life is depressing enough.

  • Sucker

     

    Quote: flyingwind said:
    Why did they let him play so long?

    *Probably a known whale. Notice they make no mention of how many times that same guy had come in previously and LOST a half million! (No – I don’t know this for a fact; just speculating)

  • creeping panther

    Team

    Maz and Bojack make another score

    But then again I can think of 2 young Detroit guys, that if banked properly, could pull off such a win.

    CP

  • Billy C1

    I think—–

    The majority of people in their twenties aren’t skilled at money management. I hope this guy is an exception.

    BillyC1

  • blackchipjim

    big win

    Without proof because I wasn’t there I had to believe that it was pure luck that the gentleman won that sum of money. I’ve been to the state’s joints and the heat can be pretty intense. You start throwing out big money and it seems that half of the pit is your audience. They stand in big tubs to catch the sweat pouring out of them.

  • jaygruden

     

    Updated article……story shifts to October rise/fall in table game revenue for many of the PA casinos……..

    “The addition of table games statewide, from 693 in October 2010 to 946 in October 2011, is one of the reasons for the sharp revenue increase statewide, McGarvey said.”…………………..

    http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011311189954

  • SBT

    Big Winner in PA

    A Pennsylvania man in his late 20s won $568,290 playing blackjack at Presque Isle Downs. The article doesn’t have much detail, of course.

    http://www.goerie.com/article/20111117/NEWS02/311179876/Big-blackjack-winner-puts-dent-in-Erie-casino’s-October-revenue

    The bits and pieces I picked up in over-heard conversations at the casino was that he played at the tables on the floor, no special high roller room. He left a $30,000 tip for the crew.

    This type of thing makes one wonder — was he a wealthy ploppy who got lucky or an advantage player?

  • bigplayer

     

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer casino (sarcasm detector going off). If the guy tipped 30K he definitely wasn’t an A.P.

  • Bondy3

     

    Quote: bigplayer said:
    Couldn’t happen to a nicer casino (sarcasm detector going off). If the guy tipped 30K he definitely wasn’t an A.P.

    30k… even if I wasnt an AP I wouldnt tip 30k, thats ludachris

  • ringlejames

     

    Quote: Bondy3 said:
    30k… even if I wasnt an AP I wouldnt tip 30k, thats ludachris

    My very first blackjack trip I ever took, I was winning my goal of about $250 from every casino I went to. I ended up going to 13 I believe. I remember being pissed as I walked into the last casino with $50 because I had tipped about $50 per casino. I started with $500 and know I tipped more than $500.

  • alwayssplitaces

     

    Quote: ringlejames said:
    My very first blackjack trip I ever took, I was winning my goal of about $250 from every casino I went to. I ended up going to 13 I believe. I remember being pissed as I walked into the last casino with $50 because I had tipped about $50 per casino. I started with $500 and know I tipped more than $500.

    A few bucks an hour is a good tip rate no matter what stakes. All a dealer is doing is dealing cards and paying the players. A dealer dealing a $100 minimum game doesn’t have more specialized skills than a dealer dealing a $10 minimum game. If you feel that dealers should earn more than minimum wage, do you tip your server at McDonalds?

  • psyduck

     

    Quote: SBT said:
    This type of thing makes one wonder — was he a wealthy ploppy who got lucky or an advantage player?

    In a short period of play, many Advanced Ploppies can outperform Advantage Players.

  • SBT

    No shoulder tap?

    Quote: psyduck said:
    In a short period of play, many Advanced Ploppies can outperform Advantage Players.

    I am new to this pursuit, but I read on this message board of players being “backed off.” I wonder why this winner at Presque Isle Downs was not backed off before he got away with a half million.

  • jaygruden

     

    Likely a non AP. They want him to keep playing because they know they’ll get it back and then some.

    I think it was the mid 90’s at TI in LV where the bum walks in off the street with his $400 SS check and builds it up to $1 million + playing BJ. They did not back him off. In fact, they set him up with a penthouse suite, new suits and all the booze and gourmet food he could consume. They kept him there for a week until he lost the whole nut, including the $400 he walked in the door with; then threw him back out into the street in the same smelly bum-clothes he had when he walked in. He was happy……lived like a king for a week on the TI tab and went back to his card board box with a great story to tell.

    If ploppies play long enough they are certain to lose and the house knows this so they want them to stay and play until it’s all gone.

  • Paddler

    Hey Billy C1

    I’m barely in my twenties and I don’t think I’m a poor money manager. I think I do an adequate job of playing to my bankroll of just over $55000. After all, its not exactly money managing we do at the tables, its ammunition control and waiting for the juicy TC’s to start firing with full cylinders.

  • tthree

     

    Quote: jaygruden said:
    Likely a non AP. They want him to keep playing because they know they’ll get it back and then some.

    I think it was the mid 90’s at TI in LV where the bum walks in off the street with his $400 SS check and builds it up to $1 million + playing BJ. They did not back him off. In fact, they set him up with a penthouse suite, new suits and all the booze and gourmet food he could consume. They kept him there for a week until he lost the whole nut, including the $400 he walked in the door with; then threw him back out into the street in the same smelly bum-clothes he had when he walked in. He was happy……lived like a king for a week on the TI tab and went back to his card board box with a great story to tell.

    If ploppies play long enough they are certain to lose and the house knows this so they want them to stay and play until it’s all gone.

    x2. Great story for illustration. The fact that they encouraged play most likely meant they evaluated his game and found it to be a long run loser. They just couldn’t keep him there long enough to hit the long run. All our money management and win projection and N0 figures are also used by the casino. They are almost always the advantage player. Bad variance for them or some other advantage play beside counting by the player they weren’t figuring into the equation.

  • Billy C1

     

    Quote: Paddler said:
    I’m barely in my twenties and I don’t think I’m a poor money manager. I think I do an adequate job of playing to my bankroll of just over $55000. After all, its not exactly money managing we do at the tables, its ammunition control and waiting for the juicy TC’s to start firing with full cylinders.

    You may be an exception to the rule. You must have had a nice grandmother to come up with a 55k BR at your age.

  • Paddler

    My Grandparents are definitely well off,

    but still very much alive. As for the BR, $2000 turns into $55000 after about 1300 hours of 6D H17 games. Not to mention over-betting the bank until it reached around $15000.

    Paddler.

  • SandBaggins

     

    Quote: “Paddler”:
    but still very much alive. As for the BR, $2000 turns into $55000 after about 1300 hours of 6D H17 games. Not to mention over-betting the bank until it reached around $15000.

    Paddler.

    That’s a nice run! You sure you’re just counting? Hehe

    SB

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