not sure how counting players is easier than counting the 10s and As, if anything i think i would have more trouble with this than KO. so you have your count...maybe -3, then u have to remember that while u could up all the small cards at the table, so thats +9, ok now im at 6, and theres 5 players and 2 of them split...-3+9-7 seems harder to me than -3+2+2-1-1...