turning stone

is the eight deck game playable if you can shuffle track? I heard they used to have a one pass shuffle...

Yikes, don't talk about this in public.

T.s.

T.S. is a "Burn Joint" -- to be avoided at all costs.

The Poker Room is good though.

burn joint?

T.s.

A "Burn Joint" is a pro's descriptive reference to a casino that offers BJ that is NOT ever advantageous AND where the games are sweated by the pit.

re: shuffle tracking. I suppose that if you are really good at S.T. then you can play their crowded 8 deck tables with 2 or more decks cut off and mediocre rules.

they actually have a double deck $10min now

but you are right
no hole card 50 pen at most h 17

turning stone poker though.... to easy

the good news is comps are sooo easy

back in bs play
15 min probably about 30 max betting for id say 25 hours got me a free room every month any day offer in the mail

....maybe an hour of vp thrown in there and an hour of craps as well....

anyway i have gotten 3 buffets one tower delux room and my gf who barley plays anything has been comped buffets on request and gets free stuff in the mail all the time... restraunt, free play, gas

would this make some +ev?

id assume so

love TS

my g/f and i go there to play blackjack almost every weekend. we have always found the dealers and pit crew friendly. we are not card counters at all but in the 8 months we have been going there we are up over $6000 and that is only playing at the $15 tables. we get comped meals and we get a $20 match play each every week which more than covers gas getting there. We also each get a free room a month on anyday but saturday. We call it our part time job. In 20 trips we have only lost 3 times. The biggest PITA there are the poker idiots that come out of the poker room a loser and think they can hit quick at BJ and almost always **** up the table for everyone. The 18-20 year old college kids with daddy's CC are a risk too. I bought everything you need to play at home and am now teaching my buddies and there girls how to play. I would really prefer to go with a "team" and lock out a table so you don't have the risk of idiots messing up our winning. Nice titties on the cocktail waitresses too. My g/f always jokes about asking them for milk. HA HA HA

Standard Toaster needs to learn that there is NO actual legit' V.P. at T.S.

Those machines are fakes. All results are predetermined centralized lotto style games like at the racinos and are raked at a very high rate. That is a fact.

I was at T.S. the day the doors opened over 16 years ago.
I was the FIRST person ever tossed from T.S.
When they installed Single Deck BJ with great rules and deep penetration I played the very FIRST hand dealt.
I am completely "persona non grata" there; not even permitted to play the carnival games !

Wow, thats really something. You MUST be good to get tossed from a casino. Or maybe you just don't get it. Maybe we should take a vote. On second thought I don't need a vot to know the answer on that one.

P.S. I can still play there even though I've taken enough loot out of there to buy a small house. Go figure.

Even a serious part-timer gets "the treatment". I've gotten it 3-4 times in the same store and I've never played full-time. It comes with playing with an advantage. Do not believe anyone who tells you they play with an advantage (outside of the Northeast) and never has this problem.

My point exactly slick, the difference is a pro handles it like he's been there before. No need to brag to a message board your superiority led to an 86'ng. Thats just amateur hour. A backoff is expected, being able to drain a place without it is not. Thats what impresses a pro. Bragging about a backoff or a barring is like bragging about tying your shoes, I'm not impressed. What is to gain about your proclamation about being the first to get tossed from T.S. To me it just shows you weren't even good enough to slip by a newbie operation. Me and others like me have fed on new hits only to have the fish get fried who don't get it. Smells like something cooking there flash.

You said:

"To me it just shows you weren't even good enough to slip by a newbie operation.
Me and others like me have fed on new hits only to have the fish get fried who don't get it.
Smells like something cooking there flash."

That "newbie operation" was managed by a group of casino operators
from Nevada, and it still took over 9 months to get tossed.

I am certainly not bragging.
I am trying to present the fact that I am
a grizzled veteran of the Blackjack Wars
with considerable expertise to share.

are they pull tab machines? Im not saying i played it expecting an advantage or anything but thats a bummer. i never investigated ts's machines before

you have a pm

Maz..


Behave now :laugh::laugh:

That is why I never miss one of your posts.

CP

And so everyone who plays turning stone is in agreement that the games are terrible and unplayable? Do you ever get better than 50% pen on those DD? Also, does the pen vary from dealer to dealer in the 6D?

As much info possible is appreciated.

I'll be in the area in a couple weeks and would like to stop in and say hello, but not if conditions aren't good enough.

No

The single Six Decker has a two deck cut off and does not vary much at all. That game always has a $100 minimum.

If you choose to play it, you will have your own personal pit boss standing right behind you.

Greedy b*tches...can't even make a game playable.

What's the house edge on that Acey ducey game? I used to play it with friends about 6 years ago and that was a good time....of course not with the house rules that ts has.