Oscar's Grind? My success! You?

[tedwards]

I just returned from a cruise and won $2330 playing Oscar's Grind with $5 units.

I bought 20 reds to start, played 14 sessions totalling 12 hours, winning between $110 and $270 per session. Never lost.

I did make a couple of changes to the grind. If my bet only took me to even I added one unit. For example, when losing the first hand, I bet 2 units on the second. Also, if my bet did not get me back to even I only bet half of the deficit. Example: Down 8 with a bet of six I only bet 4. However, if I lost that reduced bet, I would increase to what my bet would have been.

The most I went down was 84 units once and 76 units another time. In those situations I shifted to a $25 unit when I got back to less than 30 units down.

This is the third time I've used the grind. The first trip I played 8 hours and won $720, the second 5 hours and won $240, and this one 12 hours and won $2330.

So it works for me.

[EasyRhino]

I've never understood Oscar. Too complicated for me.

Originally Posted by tedwards

The most I went down was 84 units once and 76 units another time.

I'm not sure what a unit means to you, but over the weekend I lost about 80 units, and I was nearly moved to tears. How dangerous of a drawdown was that?

Also, I'm pretty sure you're breaking the grind if you change your unit size.

[shadroch]

Let me see if I got this. You claim that you won $2330 using OG with a $5 unit bet in 12 hours. That means you won an average of 38 units an hour.
Assuming you played around than 100 hands an hour, you'd need to win around 67% of hands played to achieve these results.
Something is seriosly wrong here. I may be the biggest advocate of Oscars Grind on these boards but I've never seen results anywhere near these.
There is a very good reason it's called a grind. Winning 38 units an hour would be Several SDs above the expected results. Several,with a capital S

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by tedwards

...So it works for me.

You are going to lose all your money.

[newb99]

What is "Oscar's Grind"?

[tedwards]

Shadroch,

I agree it was an incredible streak, but I did not need to win 67% of the hands. Remember, with the progression your winning hands are generally for higher units than your losing. Also, I had a several times when I was down 5,6,7 units and bet 6,7,8 unit, and won doubles. So those were bonuses.

As well, on three occasions, I was the only player and was probably playing closer to 200 hands an hour. Very seldom did I sit at a crowded table because I have no patience for the average cruise ship player. (I saw a guy double a 14 against a 6 and take down the whole table.)

Also, note I modified the grind by increasing my bets when betting to even. So when I lost the first unit I bet 2. So 72% of the time I was up 1 unit after 2 hands. If I lost the second hand I bet 1 down 3. If I won that I bet 3 down 2.

I would doubt I won more than the normal amount of hands, I was just lucky to avoid a grind that went too deep, forcing me to bail with a loss.

[BlodiaInc]

Originally Posted by newb99

What is "Oscar's Grind"?

I echo this question... what is it?

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by BlodiaInc

I echo this question... what is it?

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/...ack_System.htm

-Sonny-

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by shadroch

you won $2330 using OG with a $5 unit bet in 12 hours. That means you won an average of 38 units an hour.
Assuming you played around than 100 hands an hour, you'd need to win around 67% of hands played to achieve these results.
Something is seriosly wrong here. I may be the biggest advocate of Oscars Grind on these boards but I've never seen results anywhere near these.
There is a very good reason it's called a grind. Winning 38 units an hour would be Several SDs above the expected results. Several,with a capital S

Well, not really.

Aside from the fact the OP is not playing Oscar's grind, which he stated, since, first, BJ is not an even-money game and second he was varying the system anyway making it a different system lol.

You just can't conclude his results are way abnormal since you don't know what his avg bet/hand was and how many hands he played.

A flat-betting player couldn't possibly net 460 units in 2400 trials like you say.

Apparently sometimes he went with a $25 unit in an effort to make up for a bunch of $5 units lost. Doing that does not change the liklihood of finishing that one unit ahead.

Much more likely is that his W/L/T results were as expected but varying bets in some voodoo yet Oscar-like fashion accounts for his winnings.

Just as I doubt if the success I think you may have had utilizing Oscar at craps has changed the number of times a "pass" bet wins at craps.

In any case, whatever he has done up until now, apparently he is up 700 $5units or so at this point. Imagine how long he could last from this point forward and still show a profit should he choose to only flat-bet $5 from this point forward before he loses his 700 units.

He has already bought himself longevity, good to go for a couple hundred thousand hands, if his goal is simply not losing.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

You are going to lose all your money.

Any guess as to when you think that might happen

Next week. 2020?