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Old March 7th, 2009, 07:10 PM
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I rarely say things or reply back to others at the table when they question my play, however Friday I could not resist. I had a soft 18 against the dealers 7 The guy to my right said you should double down. I said why would I wish to go from a winning hand to a push? he then muttered something and I replied Gee I am not the one who as lost 3,000 dollars in 4 hands, and if you will note I have increased my orginal buy in by 300%, you have any other advice there genius?
Well the dealer indeed had a 10 in the hole and the next card out was a 10.
The next play the guy had a 6 against the dealers 6 and he doubled down. he recieved a 5
I recieved a pair of 9s which I split. he then said Your spliting the 9s? I said the idea is to win with the max amount possible when your dealt a high percentage at winning a hand. I then added by the way thank you for the 10 you passed up on that would have given you 21. I recieved a 10 on one nine and a 2 on the other 9 which I DD on, and getting a 8. The dealer fliped the card and it was a 4 followed by a 7.
I said no more to the guy for he had just lost another 1500 and left the table fuming.
How do you all handle people who question your play, or made snide comments. I normally ignore them but this guy ticked me off
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:30 PM
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Greetings,

I rarely say things or reply back to others at the table when they question my play, however Friday I could not resist. I had a soft 18 against the dealers 7 The guy to my right said you should double down. I said why would I wish to go from a winning hand to a push? he then muttered something and I replied Gee I am not the one who as lost 3,000 dollars in 4 hands, and if you will note I have increased my orginal buy in by 300%, you have any other advice there genius?
Well the dealer indeed had a 10 in the hole and the next card out was a 10.
The next play the guy had a 6 against the dealers 6 and he doubled down. he recieved a 5
I recieved a pair of 9s which I split. he then said Your spliting the 9s? I said the idea is to win with the max amount possible when your dealt a high percentage at winning a hand. I then added by the way thank you for the 10 you passed up on that would have given you 21. I recieved a 10 on one nine and a 2 on the other 9 which I DD on, and getting a 8. The dealer fliped the card and it was a 4 followed by a 7.
I said no more to the guy for he had just lost another 1500 and left the table fuming.
How do you all handle people who question your play, or made snide comments. I normally ignore them but this guy ticked me off
never explain anything, hold the temper, ignore them.

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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:24 AM
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You're just asking for trouble by talking to those types of players. Like CP said, ignore them.

If you justify your play with the maths behind it, a Pit Critter might overhear, and they will know that you have a brain.

You do not want the PCs to think you have a brain.

Just let them donate their money to the casino and play your hands correctly

They will usually go bust after a while and will not be your problem anymore.

Do NOT engage them. Casinos attract desperate degenerates who may be capable of worse than a person with common sense would imagine. You do not want one of them to seek revenge on you.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 09:03 AM
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Engage them only if it helps your act and cover, otherwise feel free to shrug and ignore them. Who cares what they think?
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Old March 8th, 2009, 10:02 AM
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casino whales major or minor need respect, just as the casino's give them. the casino meisters aren't going to look with favor upon anyone that doesn't give it to them.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 10:26 AM
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Usually when some guy next to me asks me about my play, I say something a real gambler would say like- "I just got that feeling" or "I'm due for a good hand soon!" If someone asked me why I didn't double down with a soft 18 against a dealer's 7, I would just say something like "I would like to, but the table's just not very hot right now" or something equally as superstitious.

The dialogue that the tourist sitting next to you is rarely anything of intelligence or importance. It can actually be a good opportunity to say something that makes you look dumb yourself and maybe draw a little heat away from you.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Next time you get any static from a ploppie, simply say: "Give me $100 and the next time I get that hand, I'll let you play it."

A side story. I played with a guy one nite, who I originally thought was not a good player. He was on third base on a $100 dollar table and the first time he got 16 vs a dealer 5, he announced to the table: "I'm going to hit this, unless someone wants to buy my hand." The guy on first base was playing big money and he immediatelly bought the hand. The guy did this three more times during his one hour of play. After I went home and thought about it, I realized the guy was a player and was simply getting out of a bad hand by pretending to be a 'dope'.
I have since used this ploy myself.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 10:53 AM
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Next time you get any static from a ploppie, simply say: "Give me $100 and the next time I get that hand, I'll let you play it."

A side story. I played with a guy one nite, who I originally thought was not a good player. He was on third base on a $100 dollar table and the first time he got 16 vs a dealer 5, he announced to the table: "I'm going to hit this, unless someone wants to buy my hand." The guy on first base was playing big money and he immediatelly bought the hand. The guy did this three more times during his one hour of play. After I went home and thought about it, I realized the guy was a player and was simply getting out of a bad hand by pretending to be a 'dope'.
I have since used this ploy myself.
That's smart. Hard 16 vs any dealer's card has a negative expectation. But I don't think tricking someone to buy his negative expectation hand is something an AP should encourage. Not ethical and could draw attention from the PC. It is a different story if announcing that I will hit 12 against 2, because the index does justify that play. I don't think that player could justify his hit on 16 vs 5.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 11:31 AM
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Next time you get any static from a ploppie, simply say: "Give me $100 and the next time I get that hand, I'll let you play it."
Boy I'd like to use this one, that's great! Or do some of you think this is even too confrontational?
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Old March 8th, 2009, 11:37 AM
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Hey, or about saying: "I'm getting a divorce so I don't really care, the less I have the less she'll get!"

Might clear out the whole table nicely for some head's up!
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