card sequencing

I can memorize 26 cards as they go into the discard tray and their 26 card probable marriage partner by myself. I decided to purse this because I knew it had huge advantages, but I really don't know how to play optimally. Does anyone have any advice on how to play or how to perserve longevity?

If you can land an Ace and a 10 value card at that hot chicks spot and tell her she is gonna get blackjack before the cards are delt. Then you got it.

Let me be a little more specific. Card sequencing and shuffle tracking go hand in hand. Due to the different shuffle styles of any given dealer, you may want to use the best strategy for the given situation. Weather it be a straight up count, sequencing, tracking or hole carding. You have to do all when the opportunity is there. Practicing cutting to the aces, see if you can land them in your hand. BS, deviation and I18 come into play big time when your doing this however. Watch yourself.

Wait a minute, that is usually not what people mean when they say sequencing. Sequencing means remembering the cards close to an ace or other auspicious card, and using the math associated with the mechanics of the shuffle to predict when you are going to get that ace relative to seeing the key card(s).

Remembering the value of a slug and the slug mated with it is more in the category of tracking than sequencing.

If you are talking about memorizing the precise order of a 26 card slug and not just the count of the slug (i.e. 2 of spades, 7 of hearts, 8 of spades, ect ect) i'm not convinced overall that it will be a whole lot of use to you. That slug would have to be mixed precisly with the other slug you've memorized and each time they riffle the two grabs together after the first time is going to break the sequence.
However if you can find a situation where this happens and the dealer is very accurate with his/her riffs and riffs the cards only twice, after seeing the first card you will know what the 5th card and the 9th card ect ect. After seeing the 2nd card you should have a good idea what the 6th card and the 10th card will be. This is where it all gets very complicated and you start to get bogged down with all the different parts of the two sequences that you'll have to pull out.
Overall the right situation is going to happen so infrequently and the technique is going to require so much mental endurance, i'm not convinced that using this technique solo is going to be worth it. Now a team, that's a different story.....

RJT.

Yah I guess I just need to find a one pass one riffle game.

Are there any other ways to profit from having a really good memory? Even outside of blackjack. Like there are no limitations to what I can remember.

Tell us about this story. Let's say there is a team of 2 players with an almost unlimited capacity for memory. What could they do?

Well there have been groups that have played hand held games with one person betting minimums putting, never hitting and returning the cards in as close to low/high order as possible. This give a very strong prediction of the next cardin certain situations.
Other than that, it's exactly what i described before. Being able to predict the next card with huge accuracy. 2 People doing this with a 1 riffle shuffle can do this with almost un-nerving accuracy. Just use your imagination. You'll come up with all sorts of techniques you could perform with this technique.

RJT.

How about double-key sequencing? You can beat the hell out of even 8D shoe games with that technique. Can you remember 20-30 ordered pairs of cards, suited? The pairs don't have to be in order, just the order of the two cards in each pair.

They would not be playing blackjack...Capote had a 98% retention rate yet he died from alcohol.

supercoolman! Are you "Brain Man"? :laugh:

Shuffle tracking is impossible!

Shuffle tracking is not possible in a lot of places because they rotate which deck they use. I use one deck and while I'm using that deck it goes into a shuffler and gets shuffled than I pull it out and use it. What you just say will have no effect on the order of the cards. The next reason why you can't shuffle track is no dealer shuffles the cards in the same way twice. I deal cards for a living and when a shuffle I don't shuffle the cards perfect. I don't grab 26 cards and 26 cards and riffle them right everytime. I grab a different number of cards each time and also I strip the deck which takes different amounts of cards in each strip.

However if you have a really great memory and can remember the order the cards came in and what they where you can use it to your advantage. You don't have to remember the order at all you just have to remember what has been played. Remember and card that has been played is not available to your hand which can be a good or bad thing. If you notice that a lot of the cards that you need have already been played than you might want to violate basic stragedy on some hands.

In my opinion I think it is best to stick with composition stragedy and card counting rather than trying to figure out exactly when a card is going to pop up. There are 52 million ways that a deck can pop up and trying to predict the order of the cards is going to drive you crazy.

If you are playing a game where they shuffe using a machine, then yah, you can't shuffle track.
I thought you said you use a shuffle machine? It will take a lot more than uneven grabs, breaks, and stripping to scare me.
Actually playing like that would not give me a significantly better EV than just using Hi Lo.
I think what you meant to say was that YOU should stick with composition strategy and card counting because predicting the order of the cards would drive YOU crazy.

It doesn't matter if you shuffle different every single time, you can still track the shuffle. The only trackers that will affect are the ones that shuffle track using a recipe.

I too would like to know how to have a perverse longevity.

Seriously though, I am interested in this concept of shuffle tracking and have read minute amounts about it. How many cards are you expecting to memorize as being together at a time? If you are playing at a full table or even a half-full table, do you expect any useful results of the memorization and tracking, or does it need to be done almost on a one-on-one table?

Just curious.

good luck

Why not memorize basic strategy?

You could also memorize which rules are advantageous to the player and which ones aren't. You could limit the house edge right there without counting cards at all.

It depends on if you are shuffle tracking or sequencing. For sequencing you might memorize 3-4 adjacent cards (2-3 key cards and one target card). For shuffle tracking you would be visually tracking larger slugs (sometimes 26-52 card chunks) of cards through the shuffle.

Ideally you would not want any “outsiders” to be interfering with your game. Ploppies can seriously affect a sequencer and mildly aggravate a tracker.

-Sonny-

Really? I sequence and the methods I use are ploppy-neutral. But all I'm really doing is just predicting the next card out of the shoe, haven't tried any steering yet. It seems impractical.

That's kind of what I was curious about...is it just a "trick" or does it have reasonable practicality in the casino? It would be very impressive to say "third base is about to get a 6", but does it matter to you? Unless, of course, it's heads-up.

good luck

You can steer cards to the dealer. If the dealer shows a high card then drawing an ace will usually be bad for him, because it will just make his stiff into a worse stiff.

There is also a method where you can steer a card to yourself on the next round. Suppose you know the 44th card out of the shoe is going to be an ace. You can play such that if everyone at the table plays Basic Strategy and the dealer has what you think he has, you will be getting the 44th card on the next round, and of course you will have an enormous bet down. This technique requires a special talent and a lot of practice.