1D 6:5 vs 6D 3:2

[ACE]

I have been pretty vocal in my discontent over the proliferation of the 6:5 games on the Strip before realizing I didnt know what the calculated house advantage is for the typical Strip SD game vs the typical Strip 6D game.

Also, what is a reasonable spread one could get away with at these games on the Strip.

 

[Rob McGarvey]

For 1D 6:5, spead your legs apart are run out the freakin' door! For 6D 3:2 a typical spread is 2 per deck or 1:12. Good 6 deck games I know of are Ballys, Caesars, Flamingo, MGM, Bellagio, Mirage, Tropicana, T Island, & Mandalay Bay in that order. The conditions change from time to time, and actually from table to table in each casino for that matter.

You may want to go after some of the better 2D games out there if you don't like the swing that you will experience with the 1:12 spread.

 

[The Mayor]

The edge for the house with the 6:5 is about 1.3%, compared with a decent 6D game that is .40% or better. In other words, the 6:5 is UNBEATABLE. Go downtown in you want single deck, the horseshoe, las vegas club, western, el cortez, all these places still offer the real thing.

 

[zengrifter]

I don't think its "unbeatable,"...

... heads up, played fast, w/good pene and a 0-10u+ spread its probably only a little worse than sf21. Definately NOT a good game. zg

 

[zengrifter]

Re: 1D 6:5 vs 6D 3:2 **DISAGREE POINTS

**Disagree on points -

For 6D 3:2 a typical spread is 2 per deck or 1:12.

**That may be a bit much for wonging, insufficient for play-all.

Good 6 deck games I know of are Ballys, Caesars, Flamingo, MGM, Bellagio, Mirage, Tropicana, T Island, & Mandalay Bay in that order. The conditions change from time to time, and actually from table to table in each casino for that matter.

**The conditions for the 6D games you site chnge VERY LITTLE (if any) from table-to-table as to %pene. Some though are mixed between s17 and h17 rules.

You may want to go after some of the better 2D games out there if you don't like the swing that you will experience with the 1:12 spread.

**The 'spread' doesn't cause greater swings per'se because spread is correctly calculated from the top down - the max bet with a 1D 1-5 spread is THE SAME as the max bet with a 6D 1-20 spread. Notwithstanding a 1-12 spread IS what should be used for many/most 2D games. zg

 

[Rob McGarvey]

YES

you are right. I don't think he was asking all of the questions that you were answering, but your extrapulations on his original question are beautiful. By wonging he can actually flat bet, and the method for getting 12u on the table for 2D you should go into for this gentleman. And as the Mayor points out, there are still some good 1D 3:2 hanging in there. Pound them out of existance boys! grin

 

[Rob McGarvey]

Re: I don't think its "unbeatable,"...

I think we were over this once, even $ BJ at Stupak's house of pain ;> Dealt all the way to the bottom. If you can remember what was dealt properly you could kill that game with it's off the top -2% ev. What were the table limits there??