3-2 v 6-5

#1
I don't understand these payout odds involved in blackjack.

If I were to play an even $100.00 on a hand what would I get back at the 3-2if I won?
And what would I get back at the 6-5?
 

EmeraldCityBJ

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#2
km703 said:
I don't understand these payout odds involved in blackjack.

If I were to play an even $100.00 on a hand what would I get back at the 3-2if I won?
And what would I get back at the 6-5?
A 3:2 payout for a $100 bet would be $150.
A 6:5 payout for a $100 bet would be $120.

Avoid 6:5 at all costs. The house edge on these games is usually around 1.5%. Most shoe games range from 0.4-0.8% depending on rules and the number of decks. A basic strategy will usually lose their money 3-4 times faster playing a 6:5 game.
 

Sonny

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#4
km703 said:
Does Las Vegas have the 3-2 game?
I'm scheduled to go there late Nov. and will be staying the Luxor.
Almost all of the casinos in Vegas have 3:2 games. A few of those places offer both so be sure to look at the sign on the table before you sit down.

-Sonny-
 

Cardcounter

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#5
Be aware of single deck

Single deck is not always the best game because in Vegas a lot of time they short change you with a 6 to 5 payout meaning you get $30 less on your $100 blackjack! Double deck games are usually the best because you can get a 3 to 2 double deck game with double any two double after a split!
 

bj bob

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#6
Cardcounter said:
Double deck games are usually the best because you can get a 3 to 2 double deck game with double any two double after a split!
Not like the the DD game at Crystal Bay Club!:grin:
 

ihate17

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#7
Where are you staying?

km703 said:
I don't understand these payout odds involved in blackjack.

If I were to play an even $100.00 on a hand what would I get back at the 3-2if I won?
And what would I get back at the 6-5?
If staying on the strip.
The strip has no playable single deck games, but some casinos have very good double deck and 6 deck shoes. Other casinos have some terrible double deck games and poor 6 deck and 8 deck shoes. So the area of the strip can help us guide you away from bad games.

ihate17
 
#8
ihate17,

I'm staying at the luxor.
But I have rented a car because we also want to see outside the main strip area.

Are there nice places outside las vegas?
 

shadroch

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#9
Will you be betting $100 a hand or will you be betting less?
There are different ways to go depending on your bet. There are places we can recommend for $5 bettors that we wouldn't send a $100 bettor to,and places that have superior $25 games but bad $5-10 games.It depends on what level you are playing.
 
#11
km703 said:
I don't understand these payout odds involved in blackjack.

If I were to play an even $100.00 on a hand what would I get back at the 3-2if I won?
And what would I get back at the 6-5?
they use whole numbers to describe payouts, otherwise everything would be X:1.. 3:2=1.5:1, 6:5=1.2:1, etc.. of course then you would have the question of "why do they pay 1.2?".. also, casinos have $2.50 chips incase there is an odd amount, but if you are a very low bettor, never bet a $2.50 chip, as they dont have $.25 chips, and they will round down, thus you lose $.25! oh yes, a quarter loss everytime you bet a pink and get a blackjack, you will go broke! hey, this mattered to me when i played $3 blackjack betting flat
 

Sonny

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#13
SilentBob420BMFJ said:
also, casinos have $2.50 chips incase there is an odd amount, but if you are a very low bettor, never bet a $2.50 chip, as they dont have $.25 chips, and they will round down, thus you lose $.25!
It is different from casino to casino. Some casinos don’t use $2.50 chips at all so you won’t get stiffed for betting odd amounts. Instead they might use fifty-cent chips/coins or actual quarters. I like casinos that use quarters because I can joke about earning my “laundry money.” :grin:

-Sonny-
 

mrbill

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#14
Sonny said:
It is different from casino to casino. Some casinos don’t use $2.50 chips at all so you won’t get stiffed for betting odd amounts. Instead they might use fifty-cent chips/coins or actual quarters. I like casinos that use quarters because I can joke about earning my “laundry money.” :grin:

-Sonny-
One casino I go to pays a $2.50 chip on BJ with 4 $1.00 chips(and takes the $2.50 chip) so you make a quarter if you get a BJ with a $2.50 chip in the bet.

Another doesn't have $2.50 chips but instead have $.50 chips. Those get paid even money on a BJ so there you lose a quarter on a BJ with a $.50 chip bet.
 

ihate17

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#15
A little confused here

mrbill said:
One casino I go to pays a $2.50 chip on BJ with 4 $1.00 chips(and takes the $2.50 chip) so you make a quarter if you get a BJ with a $2.50 chip in the bet.

Another doesn't have $2.50 chips but instead have $.50 chips. Those get paid even money on a BJ so there you lose a quarter on a BJ with a $.50 chip bet.
You bet $2.50 and get a blackjack, they pay you $4 but take the $2.50 chip?Or do they pay you $6 and take the $2.50 chip?

If they only pay $4 and then take that $2.50 chip, instead of a 3.50 or 3.75 profit on your blackjack, you are getting a 1.50 profit. That is blackjack paying 5/8 or quite a bit less than 1 to 1.

ihate17
 

mrbill

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#16
ihate17 said:
You bet $2.50 and get a blackjack, they pay you $4 but take the $2.50 chip?Or do they pay you $6 and take the $2.50 chip?

If they only pay $4 and then take that $2.50 chip, instead of a 3.50 or 3.75 profit on your blackjack, you are getting a 1.50 profit. That is blackjack paying 5/8 or quite a bit less than 1 to 1.

ihate17
I had it bass-ackwards. For a $2.50 chip they pay you $4. If you have a $1.00 chip bet they give you a $2.50 chip and take the $1.00 chip.
 
#17
mrbill said:
I had it bass-ackwards. For a $2.50 chip they pay you $4...
Seems like that would be to your advantage then. 3:2 payout on a $2.50 Blackjack would be $3.75. If they give you $4.00, it would be even better. Or am I missing something?
 

Kasi

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#18
Playloud said:
Seems like that would be to your advantage then. 3:2 payout on a $2.50 Blackjack would be $3.75. If they give you $4.00, it would be even better. Or am I missing something?
Heck no.

I think it might be enough to turn most games in favor of the player. As long as you always bet $2.50/hand lol.
 
#19
Sonny said:
It is different from casino to casino. Some casinos don’t use $2.50 chips at all so you won’t get stiffed for betting odd amounts. Instead they might use fifty-cent chips/coins or actual quarters. I like casinos that use quarters because I can joke about earning my “laundry money.” :grin:

-Sonny-
i always wondered why casinos dont have 50 cent chips, or use actual quarters.. good to know some do, i would also prefer that

mrbill said:
One casino I go to pays a $2.50 chip on BJ with 4 $1.00 chips(and takes the $2.50 chip) so you make a quarter if you get a BJ with a $2.50 chip in the bet.

Another doesn't have $2.50 chips but instead have $.50 chips. Those get paid even money on a BJ so there you lose a quarter on a BJ with a $.50 chip bet.
this is more significant than you think.. if you are betting $5.50, it would go as follows: .25/5.50 = 4.5%, then .045*.0476(chance of getting blackjack)=.02, so just by betting $5.50 instead of $5 or $6, you automatically reduce the house edge by .02%, which is a sweet deal i think, for doing basically nothing.. of course if you are betting like $20, this is a non-factor
 

Kasi

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#20
SilentBob420BMFJ said:
ithis is more significant than you think.. if you are betting $5.50, it would go as follows: .25/5.50 = 4.5%, then .045*.0476(chance of getting blackjack)=.02, so just by betting $5.50 instead of $5 or $6, you automatically reduce the house edge by .02%, which is a sweet deal i think, for doing basically nothing
Your math mystifies me lol.

Firstly, 0.045*0.0476 does not equal 0.02.

Secondly, it doesn't equal 0.02% either.

Thirdly, the chances you state of getting BJ is wrong in any game.

Fourthly, don't forget to divide by the bet amount.

Fifthly, I don't even understand why you chose a $5.50 bet or what you are paid for a BJ if that was your original bet.

Not to mention why "betting $5 or $6" leads to the same reduction in HA.

The big point here is that winning an extra 25 cents on a $2.5 BJ bet (getting paid 4$ instead of $3.75) is enough to turn the HA to the player's favor in even a 6D game.
 
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