AC player headed out to Vegas!!!!!

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Ferretnparrot said:
YEah, the pit is a bit rougher compared to AC and I still have a habit of being a bit too agressive, I don't think downtown, and black chips work well together. I'm going to stick to shoe games mostly I think from here out.
How's it going? I'd be interested in hearing any observations you have about playing bj in Vegas compared to AC.
 

Jack_Black

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#23
Ferretnparrot said:
YEah, the pit is a bit rougher compared to AC and I still have a habit of being a bit too agressive, I don't think downtown, and black chips work well together. I'm going to stick to shoe games mostly I think from here out.
that's an understatement. first time out to vegas as an AP was a few weeks ago for me. I got backed off in 1 hour playing DD on the strip, twice. I got a lot of eyebrow raises when I raised my bet, no matter what I did.

I would never play black at a grind joint anywhere in the country. if you want to play heavy downtown, stick to chunky red, instead of green.

sticking to shoes is a good idea, but also, don't stick around too long on that one either.

The only time I got no heat was playing non BJ games.
 

aslan

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#24
Jack_Black said:
that's an understatement. first time out to vegas as an AP was a few weeks ago for me. I got backed off in 1 hour playing DD on the strip, twice. I got a lot of eyebrow raises when I raised my bet, no matter what I did.

I would never play black at a grind joint anywhere in the country. if you want to play heavy downtown, stick to chunky red, instead of green.

sticking to shoes is a good idea, but also, don't stick around too long on that one either.

The only time I got no heat was playing non BJ games.
Remember Mission Impossible? Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to get the big money on the table in double deck in a Strip casino without creating heat. This tape will self-destruct in ten seconds.

My Mama used to tell me, "Son, always remember, where there's a will, there's a way."
 
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Ferretnparrot

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#25
So far I'm onserving that there is a big difference between the strip and downtown, downtown is a great place for newcomers with small bankrolls packed with low limit games. There seems to be a lot of "party pits". With hot girls dealing and 6:5 games. The two times I was backed off (already). Didn't roll off as a huge deal to me, and I would feel perfectly comfortable going back in the future. Unlike AC - suspect there's lots of counters so they seem to be just brushing them off and not really taking any further action. I walked by Aria and the venetian and **** my pants when I saw how big they were. The mexicans with the flyers....are a bit outa control, but I gotta say, I'd be tempted to call one of them if not my fear of being mugged. Iv hit a lot of properties there are a lot of 6:5 games and csms, but generally they seem to be on low limit tables, or in low limit properties, for a green chipper I think the city is a melting pot of any game you'd want to play. I'm headed out of downtown now to work the bigger casinos. I got a comp room for tonight as planned. I tried whipping the cash out in front of the host last night, and it didn't work. :?
 

kewljason

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#26
Ferretnparrot said:
So far I'm onserving that there is a big difference between the strip and downtown, downtown is a great place for newcomers with small bankrolls packed with low limit games. There seems to be a lot of "party pits". With hot girls dealing and 6:5 games. The two times I was backed off (already). Didn't roll off as a huge deal to me, and I would feel perfectly comfortable going back in the future. Unlike AC - suspect there's lots of counters so they seem to be just brushing them off and not really taking any further action. I walked by Aria and the venetian and **** my pants when I saw how big they were. The mexicans with the flyers....are a bit outa control, but I gotta say, I'd be tempted to call one of them if not my fear of being mugged. Iv hit a lot of properties there are a lot of 6:5 games and csms, but generally they seem to be on low limit tables, or in low limit properties, for a green chipper I think the city is a melting pot of any game you'd want to play. I'm headed out of downtown now to work the bigger casinos. I got a comp room for tonight as planned. I tried whipping the cash out in front of the host last night, and it didn't work. :?

Don't call the girls on the flyers! That's very negative EV. :laugh:

It's funny, I often hear people complain about all the dudes pushing the flyers. I don't even notice them anymore. :eek:

I always get a kick out of peoples different take on Vegas. Residents and regular players see the glass as half empty with deteriorating games, while new player coming from the east for the first time see the glass as half full, with superior games than they are used too. And it doesn't have to be the double deck that aslan keeps pushing. 6 deck games have better rules and penetration than AC and the abundance of games makes us tablehoppers drool. :laugh:

Have fun Ferrot and if you are around the strip area, check out the opening of Cosmo, wed night at 8pm. Casino openings here are exciting and a lot of fun. :)
 

aslan

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#27
kewljason said:
Don't call the girls on the flyers! That's very negative EV. :laugh:

It's funny, I often hear people complain about all the dudes pushing the flyers. I don't even notice them anymore. :eek:

I always get a kick out of peoples different take on Vegas. Residents and regular players see the glass as half empty with deteriorating games, while new player coming from the east for the first time see the glass as half full, with superior games than they are used too. And it doesn't have to be the double deck that aslan keeps pushing. 6 deck games have better rules and penetration than AC and the abundance of games makes us tablehoppers drool. :laugh:

Have fun Ferrot and if you are around the strip area, check out the opening of Cosmo, wed night at 8pm. Casino openings here are exciting and a lot of fun. :)
Yes, I like the DD games when you can find a good one with good pen. The shoe games are great for wonging in and out and the rules are good. They are also excellent for team play, since you need a MSE game. I switch back and forth. But I have never lost a large amount at a DD game, even in a Caesar's (formerly Harrah's) casino, but have done so in shoe games.
 
#28
Ferretnparrot said:
The mexicans with the flyers....are a bit outa control, but I gotta say, I'd be tempted to call one of them if not my fear of being mugged.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That s***'ll come back with you."

- The Hangover

Sounds like you're doing great. Have fun!
 

Ferretnparrot

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#29
I'm on day 4 here in vegas, iv seen most of the casinos and I now realise its important to come prepaired with indexes for h17+surrender a pair of rules not found anywhere on the east coast in pa or nj except maybe a few low limit tables in mohegan sun in ct.

Since there are some better games than the h17 shoes I havnt been playing them anyways, in the future, I will put them under my belt right now, I don't have access to them, can anybody pm me the numbers for hilo just for surrender plays
 
#30
Ferretnparrot said:
I'm on day 4 here in vegas, iv seen most of the casinos and I now realise its important to come prepaired with indexes for h17+surrender a pair of rules not found anywhere on the east coast in pa or nj except maybe a few low limit tables in mohegan sun in ct.

Since there are some better games than the h17 shoes I havnt been playing them anyways, in the future, I will put them under my belt right now, I don't have access to them, can anybody pm me the numbers for hilo just for surrender plays
16 vs. 8,9= 4,0
15 vs. 9,10,A = 2,0,0
14 vs. 9,10,A = 6,3,4
13 vs. 10 = 8
88 vs. 10 = 0
 
#31
kewljason said:
Don't call the girls on the flyers! That's very negative EV. :laugh:
Nevada has legal brothels.

To work at a legal brothel in NV, a girl must undergo a medical exam and a criminal background check. Nevada brothels also will not hire transvestites or she-males.

Thus, using logic, consider the probable reasons why a prostitute would choose to work illegally in Nevada.
 

kewljason

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#32
Automatic Monkey said:
Nevada has legal brothels.

To work at a legal brothel in NV, a girl must undergo a medical exam and a criminal background check. Nevada brothels also will not hire transvestites or she-males.

Thus, using logic, consider the probable reasons why a prostitute would choose to work illegally in Nevada.
Don't be like that AM. Diseased, transvestite prosi(dudes) with criminal backgrounds have to make a living too! :laugh: Kind of adds to the Vegas experience doesn't it? :laugh:
 

aslan

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#33
Automatic Monkey said:
Nevada has legal brothels.

To work at a legal brothel in NV, a girl must undergo a medical exam and a criminal background check. Nevada brothels also will not hire transvestites or she-males.

Thus, using logic, consider the probable reasons why a prostitute would choose to work illegally in Nevada.
HOWEVER, it is my understanding that the casino owners are trying to roust the low class pros out of LV (where prostitution is illegal), but not the high class girls ($500 a visit and up)--you can usually tell them by their very expensive gowns. Far be it from me to know first hand, but it is my understanding that any major hotel can fix you up with one of these "high class" working girls if you are staying at their establishment. My guess is that certain organized criminal elements may be involved in the high class escort services.

In counties of Nevada other than Clark County (home of Las Vegas), prostitution is legal.
 
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aslan

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#34
kewljason said:
Don't be like that AM. Diseased, transvestite prosi(dudes) with criminal backgrounds have to make a living too! :laugh: Kind of adds to the Vegas experience doesn't it? :laugh:
There are usually openings for diseased, transvestite prosidudes with criminal backgrounds at Walmart, In N Out, Checkers, Taco Bell, Jack in the Box, and certain Mickey Dee's if they don't mind the career change. If they're good with their hands, they might even land a dealer's job in an off-strip casino. Appropriate dress codes must be observed, however.
 

Ferretnparrot

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#35
aslan said:
HOWEVER, it is my understanding that the casino owners are trying to roust the low class pros out of LV (where prostitution is illegal), but not the high class girls ($500 a visit and up)--you can usually tell them by their very expensive gowns. Far be it from me to know first hand, but it is my understanding that any major hotel can fix you up with one of these "high class" working girls if you are staying at their establishment. My guess is that certain organized criminal elements may be involved in the high class escort services.

In counties of Nevada other than Clark County (home of Las Vegas), prostitution is legal.
Woah, woah, woah, does this mean if I talk to a host, they will comp me a hooker? How come nobody told me about this before? Iv only got 3 more nights!
 
#36
aslan said:
There are usually openings for diseased, transvestite prosidudes with criminal backgrounds at Walmart, In N Out, Checkers, Taco Bell, Jack in the Box, and certain Mickey Dee's if they don't mind the career change. If they're good with their hands, they might even land a dealer's job in an off-strip casino. Appropriate dress codes must be observed, however.
Whoring pays more.

And, whilst I do not find the concept of hiring a diseased transvestite prostidude with a criminal background to be appealling, I'm all for socioeconomic mobility.
 

aslan

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#37
Ferretnparrot said:
Woah, woah, woah, does this mean if I talk to a host, they will comp me a hooker? How come nobody told me about this before? Iv only got 3 more nights!
No one said hookers were comped. :laugh: How's your luck going? Do you want to leave Vegas with STD, too? Quit while you're still ahead--or at least not too far behind.
 

Ferretnparrot

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#38
Iv gotten my ass kicked, I came with 15800, peaked at 18900 and I'm down at 6400 right now playing 150-200max bets, it sucks major donkey dick. I think the chances of me winning 10k in r days are slim so it looks like vegas got reaaaaly lucky this time. Prob the last time though, I'm getting into trouble all over the place.
 
#39
Ferretnparrot said:
Iv gotten my ass kicked, I came with 15800, peaked at 18900 and I'm down at 6400 right now playing 150-200max bets, it sucks major donkey dick. I think the chances of me winning 10k in r days are slim so it looks like vegas got reaaaaly lucky this time. Prob the last time though, I'm getting into trouble all over the place.
Where the Christ are you playing? Something isn't right if you are getting douched out all over town and losing to such an extreme too.
 

21forme

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#40
Ferret - Check out Cosmo, if you haven't played there yet. A friend of mine who is also an AC player was there the last 2 nights and has done very well.
 
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