After 6 Months Of Practice...I Failed In The Real World.

bjtocki

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#21
A.L.F. said:
Having never backcounted, how long can I stand behind this table till they start to wonder about me?

Thanks again,

A.L.F.
Just go to when the casino is full and backcount at the full table. Nobody will suspect anything because it's quite normal.
 

EasyRhino

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#22
A.L.F. said:
Having never backcounted, how long can I stand behind this table till they start to wonder about me?
If you never even play a hand, they'll just think you're a weird child molestor type. Which will only put you in the bottom 40% of the casino populace.

If you finally jump in during a positive count (as long as your bet isn't huge for the joint) then they'll just think you finally got up your nerve.
 

callipygian

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#23
A.L.F. said:
1. Did anyone else have this same problem when they started?
A lot of people do, although I didn't personally because I added counting cards to my existing familiarity with blackjack.

There's a lot of good advice in this thread, you seem smart enough to figure out which posts are the best ones.
 
#24
Sorry guys, I guess this one got lost in the shuffle--so can I trouble you all once more and re-ask these questions from my earlier post please?

I'm guessing there's really no need to stay with one-hour sessions right now (while I'm practicing on Red with either a flat bet or tiny spread)? This is on a 6D game with S17, DS, RSA, and 75% pen...ultimately, I'd like to employ a 1:12 spread.

Therefore, these questions have arisen:

1. Should I just flat bet till I feel I'm 100% ready in a year or so--or should I use some tiny spread like 1:3 (2u = halfway, 3u = max bets for a little bit more realistic feel to the game...once I've proven I can actually keep the count or a full shoe of course)?

2. What's the max number of hours I can push these "training playing sessions" to without wearing out my welcome if flat betting?

3. Same question but on using the tiny spread of say 1:3?


Thank you so much!

A.L.F.
 

EasyRhino

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#25
A.L.F. said:
1. Should I just flat bet till I feel I'm 100% ready in a year or so--or should I use some tiny spread like 1:3 (2u = halfway, 3u = max bets for a little bit more realistic feel to the game...once I've proven I can actually keep the count or a full shoe of course)?
Neither. Practice for free (home, software, backcounting) until you can keep it straight, then go for it with a full spread. Appropriate for your particular bankroll, of course.

2. What's the max number of hours I can push these "training playing sessions" to without wearing out my welcome if flat betting?
If flat betting, the casino will let you play until you pass out. And longer.

3. Same question but on using the tiny spread of say 1:3?[/I]
Probably just as long. Especially if it's small stakes. It's still a money winner for the casino, so they would only ask you to stop if they were exceptionally paranoid, or you just became annoying.
 

bjhack

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#27
EasyRhino said:
If flat betting, the casino will let you play until you pass out. And longer.

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This isn't quite true. On a long (BS) session, drinking JD a way too long, the waitress (probably trying to do me a favour) started bringing me JD & Water. I corrected her; did walk away with yellow+blacks with only a $100 by-in. (The only time I've gone away from flat-betting BS is when I've been sober... for example, the last time I was in LV, my last bet before the plane was the amount I was up for the trip (only $100 - what the hell, I had never bet that much, and it was "casino money")
 
#28
Tarzan said:
Some 25 years ago, I started practicing and learning my count, reading, etc. I never walked into an actual casino until I felt I was ready to rock'n'roll. I had it down to a science by the time I played my first hand in the casino, complete with charts, statistical data, notes, you name it and I prepared for it! My count was dead accurate, dead on... never off by even one card.

All except for one thing that I HADN'T prepared for! The noises, distractions, etc. I found that the clanging and bells of the slot machines in the background had a definitve disorienting effect on me, the lights were a distraction, along the people and scrutiny. I found that where I had been able to keep an exact count and never go off by even one card, suddenly I was losing the exact count in the actual casino conditions! This was alarming to me and I then started to create diversions and noise while practicing flipping cards at home, take phone calls, whatever... it still took a long time to be able to block out things to focus on what I was doing, maybe about a year or so of infrequent trips.

After a time the lights, the background noise, the distractions are all easily blocked out and you acclimate to be functional in this environment. Anymore nothing has any effect on me and the waitress could whip out her breasts and start singing "The Star Spangled Banner" at the top of her lungs and I won't lose focus or lose the count. The Pit Boss could do cartwheels across the pit while John Phillip Sousa style marching band tunes blast in the background and I will not lose focus or lose the count. Purple flying monkeys could come flying out from the ceiling and...okay... you get the idea.
Try playing the Pussycat Dolls pit at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas to help with casino distractions. The women dance around poles in the middle of the pit. At night , folks are lined up three deep to watch. The place is loud and very distracting. Pussycat Dolls are also dealing to add to the madness. The six deck rules(.94, h17,d 10, $15 min.) are poor to pay for the overhead. The experience for the diversions of casino play, priceless.

JSTAT
 
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Finn Dog

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#29
JSTAT said:
Try playing the Pussycat Dolls pit at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas to help with casino distractions. The women dance around poles in the middle of the pit. At night , folks are lined up three deep to watch. The place is loud and very distracting. Pussycat Dolls are also dealing to add to the madness. The six deck rules(.94, h17,d 10, $15 min.) are poor to pay for the overhead. The experience for the diversions of casino play, priceless.

JSTAT
Sounds like the ideal place to practice maintaining the count by back counting: the antithesis of practicing at home on CVBJ.
 

johndoe

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#30
Finn Dog said:
Sounds like the ideal place to practice maintaining the count by back counting: the antithesis of practicing at home on CVBJ.
Maybe the next version of CVBJ should introduce the option to remove the dealer's clothes. :devil:
 

Finn Dog

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#33
bjtocki said:
The voice is not attractive either... :eek:
On my computer, Cassie sounds exactly like a female Sean Connery.

Guess it's time for a new computer...but it's a nice distraction, though.
 
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johndoe

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#34
Finn Dog said:
Cassie?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
LOL yeah. She doesn't say that much, so it would probably be simple to pre-record her phrases from a hot-sounding woman, rather than using the synth.

As always, once nudity/sex is applied to a product, sales are guaranteed to increase.
 
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