Basic Strategy and the Casinos Advantage

#1
I was under the impression that the casino still has a house advantage even if you play perfect basic strategy. However, I am reading 'Fortunes Formula' by William Poundstone and on pg107 it says that the advantage is 0.10 in favour of the player. Is this correct?
 
#2
Yes. The casino still has the advantage over perfect Basic Strategy. The specific percentage fluctuates with the various rules a casino employs for blackjack. I think the more common house advantage is .05%, but I'm just a noob and could be way off.
 
#3
So the book is incorrect? This is what the passage says

"A surprising conclusion of later computer studies, also reported in Thorp's book, was that the Baldwin group had miscalculated the house advantage. Instead of the claimed 0.62 percent in favor of the house, it was about 0.10 percent in favor of the player. This is without counting cards."
 

cardcounter0

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#4
The book is correct.

They were talking about single deck, double on any two, double after split, dealer stands on soft 17, with early surrender.

One of the reasons why this particular set of rules no longer exists.
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
#5
cardcounter0 said:
The book is correct.

They were talking about single deck, double on any two, double after split, dealer stands on soft 17, with early surrender.

One of the reasons why this particular set of rules no longer exists.

Wasn't early surrender first introduced in Atlantic City some 15 years after BTD was published?
 

EasyRhino

Well-Known Member
#6
S17 DOA DAS, will, according to the strategy engine here, result in a 0.15% player advantage.

But again, those rules don't exist anywhere.

A typical casino advantage on modern rules is 0.5%
 

Mimosine

Well-Known Member
#7
i don't know who this poundstone fellow is, but from a historical perspective I believe Thorp mentions that no one really knew what the house edge was, because BS hadn't even been invented/discovered. most people were probably giving the house a bigger edge than they have now, since even now, most ploppies know something about BS.
 
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