beat CSM team , pls join us now!!

[Pro21]

If you are patient you can definitely get an ace machine for much less.

 

[johndoe]

No offense, but if you can't figure out how to get your hands on a machine I doubt you will have any chance of finding a way to beat it.

Effort (and supporting cost) of scavenging for a machine and the ability to reverse engineer electromechanical (or software) systems are completely separate skills. It's nonsensical to claim that one has anything to do with the other. You meant nothing but offense with your comment.

But even if I am guaranteed to have the ability to reverse engineer the machine, there is still a gamble of whether it is beatable or not; I'm not sure I'm willing to take that $10,000 - $20,000 bet personally, since my job's EV is even higher than being able to travel around exploiting CSM's. However, I'd love to crack the thing for the satisfaction, or if I can get one cheaply (even broken) it might be worth a look.

 

[Slick Vic]

Hey, don't give up guys. These things were invented and built by human minds. Just because it's a tough ask, doesn't mean it's impossible to beat the things.

We still haven't found a way to beat a roulette wheel yet...

 

[beyondbj]

ASM for sale if you act fast:

(Dead link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Ace-Card-Shuffler-Automatic-Shuffle-Master-Ace-Shuffler_W0QQitemZ300312683133QQihZ020QQcategoryZ63748QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Thanks to Pro21 for the link.

-Sonny-

ASM is not CSM
and the seller is 0 feedback , be aware

 

[1357111317]

We still haven't found a way to beat a roulette wheel yet...

Is that sarcasm? People have beaten roulette.... legally too.

 

[Slick Vic]

Is that sarcasm? People have beaten roulette.... legally too.

I was talking about mathematically. Yeah, I've heard of stories of teams that found a biased wheel and exploited it. Although I do stand corrected.

 

[johndoe]

I was talking about mathematically. Yeah, I've heard of stories of teams that found a biased wheel and exploited it. Although I do stand corrected.

Others have beaten roulette purely by predictions based on spin and ball timing. But they were using devices (when it was legal). I suppose it wouldn't be impossible for someone to do it now, but very difficult.

 

[beyondbj]

I can crack CSM , who can write simulation?

any one can write a simulation program

i can tell u the way

but pls key secret when u know it

 

[Elhombre]

Others have beaten roulette purely by predictions based on spin and ball timing. But they were using devices (when it was legal). I suppose it wouldn't be impossible for someone to do it now, but very difficult.

Yes it's true, a friend of mine does it,but he is barred in the most
European Casinos.
He made 3 Mio $ in his live with wheelwatching.

rainer:cool2:

 

[zengrifter]

Others have beaten roulette purely by predictions based on spin and ball timing. But they were using devices (when it was legal). I suppose it wouldn't be impossible for someone to do it now, but very difficult.

Not entirely true - the computer predictive devices exploit a small bias which is found on many/most wheels. zg

Ps - And the above method has actually gotten EASIER.