Best system for 6Deck

#41
Brett_Harris said:
To Callipigian,

When I said there is no difference between unbalanced and balanced count, I was referring to the case when both types of count are true counted.
Then there IS a difference - a TC'd unbalanced count will out perform a balanced TC'd count. True or false? zg
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
#42
ao2vho2

Brett_Harris said:
For six decks: In order of strength


Non-Ace Reckoned (with Ace-side count)
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Hi-Opt2 (balanced)
Brh-II (unbalanced)
Omega2(bal)

I wouldn't bother with non-ace reckoned in 6 decks, so I would recommend Brh-1 (running or true) if you mainly play shoes, or perhaps UBZ11(running or True) or Zen if you also play a lot of SD and DD.

Brett.
I really dont think ho2, can beat out ao2, in straight up sims. Maybe in single deck!

Heres, 1Billion Rnds. 2decks, Da2,DAS,H17,1-4, 100 hands per hour, 66%, 3plyrs, 1hand only. Insurance enabled and aces SC @ 2 each. Full indices.



 

rukus

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#43
jack said:
I really dont think ho2, can beat out ao2, in straight up sims. Maybe in single deck!

Heres, 1Billion Rnds. 2decks, Da2,DAS,H17,1-4, 100 hands per hour, 66%, 3plyrs, 1hand only. Insurance enabled and aces SC @ 2 each. Full indices.



were those 1-4 spreads optimized, ie optimal ramps for each individual count? before you compare SCORES you need to make sure they are...
 
#44
There's no difference there.

What I want to see is Brett Harris's UB'd Ace-neutral TC'd level-2 (BRH-2?) vs. Jack Jacksons similar comparable. zg
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
#45
Good point Rukus! Although, the difference wouldnt matter that much, since they're both Ace neutral L2 counts, it could have a small enough impact, to make a difference.

The default betting ramp I used was the 1-4 spread


And since, both counts advantage starts @+2, im not sure exactly how you could determine the optimal strategy for each count, and at which TC, you should be placing your optimal bets. Should I use as close to full-kelly as humanly possible?

Ill run another Billion Round Sim w/flat-bets, and afterwards, attach a optimal/individual betting strategy, to each system, based on that systems EV at optimal TC's, followed by an additional 1B rnd sim.

Lets see if we cant start another Rukus..lol
 
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jack.jackson

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#46
zengrifter said:
There's no difference there.

What I want to see is Brett Harris's UB'd Ace-neutral TC'd level-2 (BRH-2?) vs. Jack Jacksons similar comparable. zg
Lol...Im not looking for any trouble:p

Just for the record though, can I use my L3??
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#48
As you have already noted that it is the same thing as the Red Seven Count, get ahold of a copy of Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder.

I have a copy of The World's Greatest Blackjack Simulations - Red Seven Edition, by John Auston.

Comprehensive Detailed info based on almost a trillion simulated hands.

email me with game specifics and I will provide you with optimal bet spread, Risk of Ruin, standard deviation, SCORE, D.I., etc. etc.
 
#49
sneakykid said:
Whats a good card counting system to use for a 6D, DAS, S17, NS pen 75%

I'm waiting on the books to arrive. Blackjack bluebook 2 and blackbelt in blackjack.

In the mean time I want to go ahead and start practice counting. I need to know what system to practice with, I dont want to learn the hi-low then try to relearn a different system and get all confuse. I want to set my mind on my system.

Is the Mentor the best for a 6D


Ill only say this once do not use the bluebookII. I hemoridged money when i started trying to use the kiss III. FIrst of all an unbalanced count just isnt accurate in the begining and end of the shoe you have to do to much fidging with the index number and everything. I used to swear by it until i tried a balanced count and now i have been killing it in the casinos. I play a few times a week and have tried a few different count methods. If you are looking for level one just go with the hi-lo, there is so much info out the on the hi-lo and its very easy to use but still gets the money in your hands. HOpe this hellped a little bit
 
#50
Brett_Harris said:
For six decks: In order of strength

Running
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Brh-1
UBZ11
USTON-SS
Brh-0
K-O
Red-7

True
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Brh-1
UBZ11(unb)
Wong Halves
Zen
Brh-0(unb)
RPC
K-O(true)
Red-7(true)[Brh-0-lite]
Hi-Lo

Non-Ace Reckoned (with Ace-side count)
----------------------------------
Hi-Opt2 (balanced)
Brh-II (unbalanced)
Omega2(bal)

I wouldn't bother with non-ace reckoned in 6 decks, so I would recommend Brh-1 (running or true) if you mainly play shoes, or perhaps UBZ11(running or True) or Zen if you also play a lot of SD and DD.

Brett.
Hi Brett,
hello everybody,

I am looking for Brett Harris’ „Brh Systems Book“. It seems to be out of stock on the whole planet. Where can I get a piece of further information? Would anybody sell his private copy? I’m not a math guru and not familiar with sims. But I really want to start studying Brh-0:

“Brh-0 compares nicely to UBZ2 in terms of ease and power ….” (zengrifter, 8 February 2002, Parker Pages, Blackjack Main, http://www.advantageplayer.com/blackjack/ ).

Therefore I need the book or some other help from the vast range of excellent experts here at the forum (index numbers, optimal betting spreads etc). Playing conditions of my home casino (Palma de Mallorca, Spain): ENHC, 6 D, DOA, DAS, S17, EARLY SUR (not vs. A), 4/6 PEN.

Thank you very much for your help
hhrb
 
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