betting for BJ CSM 0.12% advantage game

li_ka_shing168

Active Member
Hi everyone,
I found a CSM BJ game with a house edge of -0.12%. The casino is making a promotion and have a special new rule on the game. I have made the calculation with the new rule and the result shows an advantage of .12% by playing BS. I think I can even add up a bit more advantage by playing this game with high low. My question is, how should I bet in this game to reduce my risk of ruin to the lowest possible with a bankroll of 10000 ( I can accept a ROR of 0%~3%) . What will be the estimated earning per hours using your betting strategy?
Is it profitable to play a game with a tiny advantage like this one or will it be a waste of time?
Thanks in advance for all your help
li_ka_shing168
 
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FLASH1296

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Your expectation will be you e.v. of .12% times your flat bet amount x hands per hour times no. of hrs.

Card Counting is of NO consequence whatsoever, so a game like this - IF it is actually positive off the top - so you flat-bet.

You will need to specify the actual detailed rules.

I am guessing here that they are allowing FULL early surrender.
Perhaps "5 card ½ win", etc. etc.
 
li_ka_shing168 said:
.... I think I can even add up a bit more advantage by playing this game with high low...
Unless you know for sure the parameters of the CSM don't attempt any normal counting.

Instead, count the cards in each round for the 16 vs. 10 decision only, and don't use High-Low but a count where 2,3,4,5,7 are low and 6,10,J,Q,K are high. Worth very little, but not nothing, and it'll keep you from getting too bored in pursuing this not-so-great idea.
 

li_ka_shing168

Active Member
The promotion is :player may draw to split aces
The rules are
Six decks
Dealer stands on soft 17
Player may double on any first two cards, including after splitting
Player may split to up to four hands
Player may take early surrender, except against a dealer ace
Continuous shuffler in use
Player may re-split aces
Thanks for all the replies, it is possible to tell me how much do i have to flat bet for a bankroll of 10000 for a ROR of 0% to 3%????
 
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Sonny

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li_ka_shing168 said:
Thanks for all the replies, it is possible to tell me how much do i have to flat bet for a bankroll of 10000 for a ROR of 0% to 3%????
For a bankroll of $10,000, betting $5 will give you a RoR of around 2.7%. Betting $4 would be around 1.1%. Probably you will end up betting the table minimum earning a few cents per hour.

-Sonny-
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
This sort of advantage is a waste of time offline. You simply cannot get enough hands played to realise your advantage. I know people who have made lots playing this sort of player edge game online, but they have automated software that will play thousands of hands a day for them. You get to the long run fairly quickly like that lol.
If i were you i wouldn't waste your time with this.

RJT.
 
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li_ka_shing168 said:
The promotion is :player may draw to split aces
The rules are
Six decks
Dealer stands on soft 17
Player may double on any first two cards, including after splitting
Player may split to up to four hands
Player may take early surrender, except against a dealer ace
Continuous shuffler in use
Player may re-split aces
Thanks for all the replies, it is possible to tell me how much do i have to flat bet for a bankroll of 10000 for a ROR of 0% to 3%????
In a few days I will be playing a 6d with the same rules but s-17,HS., your game with the csm is no big deal.

But I do wish you the best of luck with it.:)

CP
 
Advice

Ask the manager for a 25 min table with a shoe instead of csm, spread 1-6 and do a dance and a sing song round the table everytime you win a hand to negate any heat. :)
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
Can you double on split/resplit Aces ?

That is a significant benefit.

And you are still thinking that you have an advantage off-the-top, eh ?

You are probably overvaluing the ES/10, as if it is true E.S.
 

li_ka_shing168

Active Member
FLASH1296 said:
Can you double on split/resplit Aces ?

That is a significant benefit.

And you are still thinking that you have an advantage off-the-top, eh ?

You are probably overvaluing the ES/10, as if it is true E.S.
I can double on split|resplit aces
It is a E.S. against the ten because there is no hole card. The dealer deals the holecard only after all players finishes their hand. And when they show an aces there is no surrender at all. Players only loses original wager against a black jack
 
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