Blackjack Card Count Hoax

[JSTAT]

Someone, or everyone, please go to this article and give fairly concise authorative
comment to debunk JSTAT's premise. AutoMonk and/or anyone. Ken? Sonny? Can link
back to BJINFO. zg

A concise authorative comment to debunk my premise on "Blackjack Card Count Hoax" was invited on this thread. It was published on the Examiner site due to the lack of a counter-argument on this thread. Automatic Monkey offered to sim the modified Ten Count. But chose not to dispute the facts presented regarding Julian Braun and Stanford Wong. Ken Smith weighed in with same results. Why don't you comment on http://www.examiner.com/x-18051-San...Examiner~y2009m7d23-Blackjack-Card-Count-Hoax zg? I have the power of ICNT on the examiner.com site, but won't wipe out intelligent comments, as he does here on bjinfo. So be polite and logical.

 

[zengrifter]

A concise authorative comment to debunk my premise on "Blackjack Card Count Hoax" was invited on this thread. It was published on the Examiner site due to the lack of a counter-argument on this thread.

The debunking really belongs at Examiner.com, not here - anyone and everyone who is moved to reply should do so - comment at the blog article at Examiner.com! zg

 

[iCountNTrack]

I have the power of ICNT on the examiner.com site, but won't wipe out intelligent comments, as he does here on bjinfo. So be polite and logical.

HAHAH, intelligent comments, good one, it made me laugh. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Staying on topic for this thread is my desire. Automatic Monkey's offer to run my modified Ten Count is a road I'd rather not travel on. Monkey already suggested his findings without knowing the facts. The sim for my count will be done at Cal Berkeley. Cal is able to independently analyze High/Low and Thorp's modified Ten Count. I'd accept its findings.

Yeah good going αδερφός, you sound absolutely brilliant.

 

[aslan]

Yeah good going αδερφός, you sound absolutely brilliant.

Is JSTAT a family member?

 

[mdlbj]

Bojack is the real deal folks. We will be reading his books in a few days, weeks or years?

Having the opportunity to talk with him on a few occasions, he has made a great impression in my thinking and playing decisions. When it comes to professional play in today's conditions, there is really not a better source than him.

I really believe you have no idea why you say the things you do. Everything you spout is just regurgitated information from other sources. Whether these sources are reliable or not means nothing to you because you have demonstrated no understanding of what you are saying. When asked for evidence you transfer the conversation to ridiculous outbursts or just nonsensical banter.

As far as the effectiveness of hi lo, I posed this question to JSTAT in a recent chat, "If hi lo is a hoax how can I have had a successful blackjack career for 15 years using it?" His response was that I was nothing more than someone scanning the message boards looking to recruit players for a team and take their money, and that my past posts prove that. Again it is JSTATS limited understanding of which he speaks that does not allow him to enter into any logical discussion on the real pros and cons of his point of view. Basically when cornered he acts like a clown to transfer the responsibility of his opinions and accusations. As far as his accusations go if there is anybody here that I have taken a dime from please come forward. There have been just a few here that I have had the pleasure of meeting and playing with, and everyone has played on my bankroll with no risk of their own money. So please JSTAT do yourself a favor and get yourself straight and informed, even if your opinion isn't popular, if you don't know how do defend it, its nothing more than bullsh*t.

 

[aslan]

I really believe you have no idea why you say the things you do. Everything you spout is just regurgitated information from other sources. Whether these sources are reliable or not means nothing to you because you have demonstrated no understanding of what you are saying. When asked for evidence you transfer the conversation to ridiculous outbursts or just nonsensical banter.

As far as the effectiveness of hi lo, I posed this question to JSTAT in a recent chat, "If hi lo is a hoax how can I have had a successful blackjack career for 15 years using it?" His response was that I was nothing more than someone scanning the message boards looking to recruit players for a team and take their money, and that my past posts prove that. Again it is JSTATS limited understanding of which he speaks that does not allow him to enter into any logical discussion on the real pros and cons of his point of view. Basically when cornered he acts like a clown to transfer the responsibility of his opinions and accusations. As far as his accusations go if there is anybody here that I have taken a dime from please come forward. There have been just a few here that I have had the pleasure of meeting and playing with, and everyone has played on my bankroll with no risk of their own money. So please JSTAT do yourself a favor and get yourself straight and informed, even if your opinion isn't popular, if you don't know how do defend it, its nothing more than bullsh*t.

Well done.

 

[JSTAT]

I really believe you have no idea why you say the things you do. Everything you spout is just regurgitated information from other sources. Whether these sources are reliable or not means nothing to you because you have demonstrated no understanding of what you are saying. When asked for evidence you transfer the conversation to ridiculous outbursts or just nonsensical banter.

As far as the effectiveness of hi lo, I posed this question to JSTAT in a recent chat, "If hi lo is a hoax how can I have had a successful blackjack career for 15 years using it?" His response was that I was nothing more than someone scanning the message boards looking to recruit players for a team and take their money, and that my past posts prove that. Again it is JSTATS limited understanding of which he speaks that does not allow him to enter into any logical discussion on the real pros and cons of his point of view. Basically when cornered he acts like a clown to transfer the responsibility of his opinions and accusations. As far as his accusations go if there is anybody here that I have taken a dime from please come forward. There have been just a few here that I have had the pleasure of meeting and playing with, and everyone has played on my bankroll with no risk of their own money. So please JSTAT do yourself a favor and get yourself straight and informed, even if your opinion isn't popular, if you don't know how do defend it, its nothing more than bullsh*t.

You did not address Julian Braun or Stanford Wong misleading readers in my article "Blackjack Card Count Hoax." Wong and Braun were caught with their hands in the cookie jar, so to speak. http://www.examiner.com/x-18051-San...Examiner~y2009m7d23-Blackjack-Card-Count-Hoax

In the chat, I told you that I suspect that you might be pocketing other players money and claiming that were a long term winner using hi/lo. In other posts, you accepted players money for the team bankroll. You are not the only investor as noted in the unflattering post quoted above.

 

[Bojack1]

In the chat, I told you that I suspect that you might be pocketing other players money and claiming that were a long term winner using hi/lo. In other posts, you accepted players money for the team bankroll. You are not the only investor as noted in the unflattering post quoted above.

The only people that have invested any money playing with me are my actual team members. There is not one person that is not an actual full time team member that has invested even one penny into playing with me. Like I said, there are very few that I have met and played with from this or any site, but those who have, played on my bankroll with no risk to their own money. I would not have it any other way. So please, if you are going to state alleged information from my posts that I know are false and misleading, you better provide some proof. And when you can't it will be further proof into your credibility and or lack of reading comprehension.

 

[JSTAT]

The only people that have invested any money playing with me are my actual team members. There is not one person that is not an actual full time team member that has invested even one penny into playing with me. Like I said, there are very few that I have met and played with from this or any site, but those who have, played on my bankroll with no risk to their own money. I would not have it any other way. So please, if you are going to state alleged information from my posts that I know are false and misleading, you better provide some proof. And when you can't it will be further proof into your credibility and or lack of reading comprehension.

First you say everyone plays on your bankroll. Then you backpeddle and say that actual full time team members are invested. But wait! On March 21 on a Team Play thread you wrote "Everyone on my team uses the same counting system. Some players can perform all the jobs of the team, some players can't. You get compensated based on 3 ways on my team. First, on what your job description is on each trip. Second, a percentage of the investment share based on the individual's monetary investment. Third, on the amount of time you play at the casino. Each hour of play is divided into shares. Based on job description, the amount of shares per hour is what you will be paid for. In your own words it is stated that individuals (not full time team members) invest in the hi/lo sceme. And finally, you Bojack1, let the cat out of the bag by posting what was said on chat. No one has won on this site using hi/lo on your team, only you. The Blackjack Card Count Hoax is factual and can't be disputed.

 

[RJT]

You did not address Julian Braun or Stanford Wong misleading readers in my article "Blackjack Card Count Hoax." Wong and Braun were caught with their hands in the cookie jar, so to speak. http://www.examiner.com/x-18051-San...Examiner~y2009m7d23-Blackjack-Card-Count-Hoax

In the chat, I told you that I suspect that you might be pocketing other players money and claiming that were a long term winner using hi/lo. In other posts, you accepted players money for the team bankroll. You are not the only investor as noted in the unflattering post quoted above.

When you suspect something as serious as theft, you'd don't make that suspicion public until you actually have some evidence to support your claim. You're defaming someone else's character and the fact that you've already taken that action shows what a direputable huckster you are. In honesty i'd happily see you removed from this site as i think that we've humoured your nonsense long enough and more than enough evidence and time has been provided to disprove every claim you've made. Your choice to ignore the evidence doesn't change its' validity and your continued babble is nothing short of irritating.
Let's put this one to bed right now - i have played with Bojack's team. I did not play on the team bankroll - it's far worse for you than that i'm afraid. His team were not happy with the idea that someone that they didn't know would be given their money and rightly so. Instead, to put his team's minds at rest - myself and my partner played exclusively off Bojack's own money.
On top of that - it's not just Bojack that's a long term winning player over the scope of many millions of hands - having personally met a good proportion of his team, they were all very happy with the finantial health of their joint venture.
God this whole topic is pathetic and i genuinely hope i never have to post on this subject again.

RJT.

 

[iCountNTrack]

JSTAT on Vacation with InPlay

We have been very tolerant of you so far JSTAT, but i think everybody is getting tired, we will try again in one month.

 

[RJT]

First you say everyone plays on your bankroll. Then you backpeddle and say that actual full time team members are invested. But wait! On March 21 on a Team Play thread you wrote "Everyone on my team uses the same counting system. Some players can perform all the jobs of the team, some players can't. You get compensated based on 3 ways on my team. First, on what your job description is on each trip. Second, a percentage of the investment share based on the individual's monetary investment. Third, on the amount of time you play at the casino. Each hour of play is divided into shares. Based on job description, the amount of shares per hour is what you will be paid for. In your own words it is stated that individuals (not full time team members) invest in the hi/lo sceme. And finally, you Bojack1, let the cat out of the bag by posting what was said on chat. No one has won on this site using hi/lo on your team, only you. The Blackjack Card Count Hoax is factual and can't be disputed.

If your going to try to misinterpret what someone says at least use show some skill with language.
Individuals - those that are not full time member of the team and have no investment in the team - play on Bojack's money, not their own. They receive a lower cut of any profit as none of their money is at risk.
Team member - those that play with the team full have an investment in the bankroll and hence take a larger slice of the profits. I would like to add at this juncture that by far the largest investor in Bojack's team when it was playing was Bojack. The vast majority of the money at risk was Bojack's own and when i was over, he was actually having to reduce his stake as the other team members were making so much that they were looking to increase their stake in the bankroll.

RJT.

 

[shadroch]

We have been very tolerant of you so far JSTAT, but i think everybody is getting tired, we will try again in one month.

itzaboutyme

 

[Automatic Monkey]

We have been very tolerant of you so far JSTAT, but i think everybody is getting tired, we will try again in one month.

Again, I think that goes too far. It is clear that the guy spouts nonsense, but so do a lot of people who are attracted to a gaming website. The majority of gamblers are nonsensical thinkers. Foolishness like JSTAT's is mild compared to what every AP has to endure every day at the tables.

And again, this all happened in the Zen Zone, where words like "Zionist" are thrown about liberally, offending many but tolerated given the context.

You are behaving like King Stork :whip:, instead of King Log :sleep:.

 

[RJT]

Again, I think that goes too far. It is clear that the guy spouts nonsense, but so do a lot of people who are attracted to a gaming website. The majority of gamblers are nonsensical thinkers. Foolishness like JSTAT's is mild compared to what every AP has to endure every day at the tables.

And again, this all happened in the Zen Zone, where words like "Zionist" are thrown about liberally, offending many but tolerated given the context.

You are behaving like King Stork :whip:, instead of King Log :sleep:.

Absolutely not - when you accuse someone of a crime - like theft - you have to either be able to back it up with evidence or face a limitation on your rights to besmirch people's reputation from that point on. Freedom of speech only extends as far as your ability to damage others.
On that note - you've still failed to produce any evidence of my buisness relationship with Mike? Care to either produce it or retract your statement? Or alternatively you can just continue to conveniently ignore the fact that you have way to back up that accusation........

RJT.

 

[kewljason]

Oh great JOY!! This thread has once again found its way back to the card counting board, having been banished from "the Zen Zone". Not surprising that it can't seem to find a home. :laugh:

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Absolutely not - when you accuse someone of a crime - like theft - you have to either be able to back it up with evidence or face a limitation on your rights to besmirch people's reputation from that point on. Freedom of speech only extends as far as your ability to damage others.
On that note - you've still failed to produce any evidence of my buisness relationship with Mike? Care to either produce it or retract your statement? Or alternatively you can just continue to conveniently ignore the fact that you have way to back up that accusation........

RJT.

So who is going to get sent on vacation next, me or you? Maybe we'll both get sent together. If I travel, it will be for something more entertaining than arguing with you.

No one can prove anything about anyone here. Anonymous, remember?

 

[kewljason]

So please, if you are going to state alleged information from my posts that I know are false and misleading, you better provide some proof. And when you can't it will be further proof into your credibility and or lack of reading comprehension.

He has offered proof, Bojack1. Have you forgotten his high tech, high quality video's that he offered up as evidence. :laugh: I only mention these because several weeks ago, when I had too much time on my hands, I went over 2 of these video, hand by hand, first correcting the many mistakes made by Jstat in these video's like paying his winning hand out of his money rather than the houses money, and second comparing each hand using the Ten count vs hi-lo with the exact same betting scheme. The results were in one video ten count won $275, hi-lo $312.50. In the second Ten count -$25, hi-lo +$125. I did not analize the third and fourth video availible at youtube, simply because it's too difficult to do since the quality is bad and you can't always make out the value of the cards. My point being that even his OWN evidence doesn't stand up.

 

[daddybo]

Wow

I have seen it ALL!..A thread so HOT... it was banished from the ZenZone!
What a soap opera! :laugh: