Casino Bans

#1
I have read a good deal of consistent winners get banned from casinos.

I have been betting anywhere playing blackjack from $15-400 and stopping when I am ahead ($500-5,000).

Can tell me if they’ve been banned for wining too much? Was it due to one really good session or because of a good to date amount?

I want to take my bankroll to the high stakes ($500-5,000 bets) but don’t want to get banned if I actually walk away with good profits. ($10,000-$50,000).

Also I read that some gamblers have friends cash-in chips for them.

The most I have cashed in at once was $4,000 and they didn’t ask for an ID.

Do you need to show ID to cash in large amounts? I would assume for tax purposes, but where is the threshold. I would be interested in knowing the amounts for Indiana and Nevada.
 

blackjackomaha

Well-Known Member
#2
If you cash any amount $10,000 or higher, the casino is required to fill out a CTR, which will be sent to the IRS. No taxes are taken from you're winnings, but your information, along with the amount cashed out, will be in the IRS' hands. Keep that in mind when you file taxes.
 

Baberuth

Well-Known Member
#4
Dumb and yet some stores will ban you for winning

Surveillance has many other duties besides catching counters. That's why they most always get a call from the pit before you are "on trial". Without reviewing the tape and evaluating your bet spread, insurance bets and deviations from BS with the count, a decision to ban you should not be made. It would be "dumb" to do it any other way, but it happens.
A winner of 500 to 1500 at the same store 15 of 18 times may get a very short review and the report ( which is required ) may not need such solid proof as a review of a new guy tearing them up his first or second time there. Should you hit and run and win too often, on your return a quick tap may be waiting.
The reality of it all (which is good for us)....They don't have enough talented surveillance to count down every suspected counter, nor do they have enough talented pits to count down players.
We don't post all the ways to stay under the radar for obvious reasons, but if you get "tagged" there is an "eye" that can count you down and make you as a counter within 20 minutes. In his report he has to then show that you are a threat. Even after you are deemed a counter, the report has to show you are a threat. The acuracy of pit and surveillance reports are their job security.
You are going into a HL room where the pit is sharper and has more time to watch and evaluate your action. Be prepared. Experienced HL APs have the best info.
I wish you well.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
#6
Jackie Black said:
I have read a good deal of consistent winners get banned from casinos.

I have been betting anywhere playing blackjack from $15-400 and stopping when I am ahead ($500-5,000).

Can tell me if they’ve been banned for wining too much? Was it due to one really good session or because of a good to date amount?

I want to take my bankroll to the high stakes ($500-5,000 bets) but don’t want to get banned if I actually walk away with good profits. ($10,000-$50,000).

Also I read that some gamblers have friends cash-in chips for them.

The most I have cashed in at once was $4,000 and they didn’t ask for an ID.

Do you need to show ID to cash in large amounts? I would assume for tax purposes, but where is the threshold. I would be interested in knowing the amounts for Indiana and Nevada.
One forum member (I'll tell you his name if you PM me) was never tapped on the shoulder, or told that he was a counter, but believes that he was half-shoe-ed repeatedly simply because he was a consistent winner over a long period of time. This was at the Borgata, and went on for a long time, but he has since played there without further incident.
 
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