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#21
Canceler said:
No, he's saying that with your relatively small bankroll, plus the relatively large minimum bet, combined with a relatively bad game, you will likely be wiped out quickly no matter what you do. :(
so the good thing you tellin me is that I need like bigger bankroll? if so... what do you suggest then? I thought 5000$ was more than enough on a 25$ minimum bet table with a maximum of 1000

I can already see why I would need like maybe 3 new players in my team.. it could take some time before they ready tho
 

la_dee_daa

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#22
choubak said:
so the good thing you tellin me is that I need like bigger bankroll? if so... what do you suggest then? I thought 5000$ was more than enough on a 25$ minimum bet table with a maximum of 1000

I can already see why I would need like maybe 3 new players in my team.. it could take some time before they ready tho
its not more players its more $$$$$(money)

your max bets, just a guess here, would be like $75 and in 8 decks you won't get that high very often at all. Also again your game yields very low EV or the expected return per like your bet made. so for every bet you make you will get back 1.0065 back in return which is due to the poor rules. i got the EV of .65 from a 1-20 spread....

In the end you will not be making very much even with team play and only playing positive counts. You need more money and a better game to play :(
 
#23
la_dee_daa said:
its not more players its more $$$$$(money)

your max bets, just a guess here, would be like $75 and in 8 decks you won't get that high very often at all. Also again your game yields very low EV or the expected return per like your bet made. so for every bet you make you will get back 1.0065 back in return which is due to the poor rules. i got the EV of .65 from a 1-20 spread....

In the end you will not be making very much even with team play and only playing positive counts. You need more money and a better game to play :(
first. thnaks alot for your reply!! and I wanted to ask what EV stands for

I saw you replied to the casino of montreal thread in the other section... ill be playin by those rules... team play and wongin at the right moment since.. we will have the advantage..

Im just curious whats a good bankroll to make some money of it...?
 

la_dee_daa

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#25
choubak said:
first. thnaks alot for your reply!! and I wanted to ask what EV stands for

I saw you replied to the casino of montreal thread in the other section... ill be playin by those rules... team play and wongin at the right moment since.. we will have the advantage..

Im just curious whats a good bankroll to make some money of it...?
you won't make much at all like $5 per hour per player for like a 5k bank i dont know about playing a shared bankroll but you wont be making anymore. also i am just useing generic gusstimate numbers.

Not really worth the time from a $$$ standpoint, if its for recreation and enjoyment do it, but your still going to need a real job in any case.

Also say you did have a lot of money to do something with there are better things to do then use it for card counting if you want to make money out of it, especially with poor conditions you will have.

if your going to card count doing it for the enjoyment with the possibility of some $ in the end but remember don't quit your day job!
 
#26
la_dee_daa said:
you won't make much at all like $5 per hour per player for like a 5k bank i dont know about playing a shared bankroll but you wont be making anymore. also i am just useing generic gusstimate numbers.

Not really worth the time from a $$$ standpoint, if its for recreation and enjoyment do it, but your still going to need a real job in any case.

Also say you did have a lot of money to do something with there are better things to do then use it for card counting if you want to make money out of it, especially with poor conditions you will have.

if your going to card count doing it for the enjoyment with the possibility of some $ in the end but remember don't quit your day job!

We wont quit our jobs... we have great jobs and we making alot of money for our age.. (21 mostly lol) We wanted to try out because we are pretty confident that if we can win it in that casino... we could basically have much easier time in others! We are very confident bunch of of guys/girls studying maths @ the same university.. we been praticing alot lately and thought if some teams could make some money off casinos.. we could also!

So your saying that we be making more money if there wasnt a shared bankroll.. just playin big players and observers.. and wong in at the right moment with a big bet... and let the odds play in our favor..
 

la_dee_daa

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#27
choubak said:
We wont quit our jobs... we have great jobs and we making alot of money for our age.. (21 mostly lol) We wanted to try out because we are pretty confident that if we can win it in that casino... we could basically have much easier time in others! We are very confident bunch of of guys/girls studying maths @ the same university.. we been praticing alot lately and thought if some teams could make some money off casinos.. we could also!

So your saying that we be making more money if there wasnt a shared bankroll.. just playin big players and observers.. and wong in at the right moment with a big bet... and let the odds play in our favor..
what im saying first of all at your stakes there is no need for big players and spotters. just play a combined bankroll and all backcount and play wonging.. im saying either way your not going to make alot of money,,, you might, the lucky few will,,,,

i think the only reason teams do make good money is they a) have a very large bankroll like $50 000,$100 000 if not more at least. b) they play in places where there are good conditions and high limits. c) they have some skill in team counting and avoiding heat for longgevity.

Like myself i play for the enjoyment, having a edge of the game, in the long run il make a suposable amount of money, this stuff is interesting, because i can!!!!!

all im saying don't go in with the idea that your going to make alot of money go in with the idea of having a good time:) being positive is a important thing even when u lose!!!!
 
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