Countermeasures against "trackers", Re: Sonny's question

[Ethan]

Greetings again Sonny,

Lets' continue from what we had left off about "trackers".

I'm sorry for responding to your post late. Thanks to Ken's clarification...he would err on the side of caution to protect the APs' games. It's like if I report the pen info, even though it's public info for all players to see; it's a no no--- because the report of the pen info may shut down or destroy a good game for other APs. I thank and accept Ken's clarification, especially he took his valuable time to explain his situation, i.e.., ----<i>"as my travel schedule has kept me offline for extended periods. For example, it's been 5 days since I last logged in here...It's often a tough call to make decisions on what needs to be removed from public view... If I have to make a call that irritates a poster but preserves a game, I'll err on the side of caution."</i>

Is that really their countermeasure for shuffle trackers? If so, they are just as stupid as I thought...
-Sonny-

Their countermeasures against shuffle trackers or other "unkosher trackers who won big bucks" are as follows:

1) In addition to the normal shuffle procedures, repeat the same procedures one more time.

2) If a tracker still win, deal out only **** deck of the shoe, PM me for more details.


3) If a tracker still win, deal ****** round and "*****" the cards, PM me for more details.


4) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, examine all cards after each shoe and look for the special "you know what" on cards, both the front and back, PM me for more details.


5) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

6) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

7) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

Best regards
Ethan

 

[bjcount]

Greetings again Sonny,

Lets' continue from what we had left off about "trackers".

I'm sorry for responding to your post late. Thanks to Ken's clarification...he would err on the side of caution to protect the APs' games. It's like if I report the pen info, even though it's public info for all players to see; it's a no no--- because the report of the pen info may shut down or destroy a good game for other APs. I thank and accept Ken's clarification, especially he took his valuable time to explain his situation, i.e.., ----<i>"as my travel schedule has kept me offline for extended periods. For example, it's been 5 days since I last logged in here...It's often a tough call to make decisions on what needs to be removed from public view... If I have to make a call that irritates a poster but preserves a game, I'll err on the side of caution."</i>



Their countermeasures against shuffle trackers or other "unkosher trackers who won big bucks" are as follows:

1) In addition to the normal shuffle procedures, repeat the same procedures one more time.

2) If a tracker still win, deal out only **** deck of the shoe, PM me for more details.


3) If a tracker still win, deal ****** round and "*****" the cards, PM me for more details.


4) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, examine all cards after each shoe and look for the special "you know what" on cards, both the front and back, PM me for more details.


5) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

6) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

7) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

Best regards
Ethan

This sounds like that old story of the player that hit up one of the AC casinos for a million bucks before they figured out how he was always winning.

BJC

 

[shadroch]

Except that was an entertaining story.

 

[bjcount]

Except that was an entertaining story.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAH :laugh: :cry::cry: :laugh:

 

[standard toaster]

i thought you left?!?!?1

well anyway same situation as before.... remember when you were called a casino troll and people thought you may work for the casino?

well guess what?
Your at it again... all you do is post about casino countermeasures and rules... nothing else... no insightful posts, no questions about your game, no helping other players... actually i believe you hurt people by bashing on ken and everyone else as well as possibly destroying games pros survive on!
apparently you even destroyed free parking??!?! This was a usefull topic contributed by you of course

Plaza's free parking was terminated after 12/31/08. Perhaps Plaza Management read this board, did not want any guys from here to park in its garage for free, thus canceled the freebie, lol. However, Trop may not read this board, thus it still has the same old simple shuffle since circa 2003, lol

hopefully no one in the right mind will pm you about your tracking....

why did you come back anyway? they deleted your posts over at wongs site too?

After your bashing of ken and the rest of the forum i dont think many people will take to kindly to you....




oh and please try and put an "s" on the end of your plural words so i dont have to read things 10 times to understand it....

thank you for telling us about counter measure. They really only deal 3 deck? If tracker still win do casino boot? Why are you back I still piss

 

[moo321]

Greetings again Sonny,

Lets' continue from what we had left off about "trackers".

I'm sorry for responding to your post late. Thanks to Ken's clarification...he would err on the side of caution to protect the APs' games. It's like if I report the pen info, even though it's public info for all players to see; it's a no no--- because the report of the pen info may shut down or destroy a good game for other APs. I thank and accept Ken's clarification, especially he took his valuable time to explain his situation, i.e.., ----<i>"as my travel schedule has kept me offline for extended periods. For example, it's been 5 days since I last logged in here...It's often a tough call to make decisions on what needs to be removed from public view... If I have to make a call that irritates a poster but preserves a game, I'll err on the side of caution."</i>



Their countermeasures against shuffle trackers or other "unkosher trackers who won big bucks" are as follows:

1) In addition to the normal shuffle procedures, repeat the same procedures one more time.

2) If a tracker still win, deal out only **** deck of the shoe, PM me for more details.


3) If a tracker still win, deal ****** round and "*****" the cards, PM me for more details.


4) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, examine all cards after each shoe and look for the special "you know what" on cards, both the front and back, PM me for more details.


5) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

6) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

7) If an "unkosher tracker" still win, PM me for what a pitcirtter will do.

Best regards
Ethan

What the hell? Go back to bj21. Are you seriously asking for sensitive information a few weeks after storming out, a few weeks after joining?

 

[shadroch]

We are looking for comp whores, not attention whores. Get thee gone back to the abyss ye came from.

 

[nj45lady]

Hey Shadroch, good jumping in point. I am a comp whore! LOL I am headed in 10 minutes for the crappy 8 deck game at Ballys where the pit crew is the best and kindest and people actually want to do things for you! I may get some time in the Trop tomorrow. I am armed with my two new blackjack books thanks to everyones advice on the boards. I am armed with Stanford Wong and Peter Griffin books. I am ready to ramp my bets, counting is easy for me, betting is not. Wish me luck, wish me safety, I do have balls balls balls and one day one of these guys will be swinging at me. I hate being told what to do and asked a million questions about why I hit or stood on something. Lucky I am related to LE :devil: Gives me even more balls and him more odgeda (spelling)!
I could only get comped for tonight, so may not be able to play Sunday
I am getting addicted, we have stayed the last 4 weekends in a row, last weekend he pulled me off the table at 4 a.m EEKS!

Well, everyone have a great weekend and thanks for all your help, lets see what happens!

 

[standard toaster]

What the hell? Go back to bj21. Are you seriously asking for sensitive information a few weeks after storming out, a few weeks after joining?

by posting on bj21 he still ruins games... do all of us a favor and just stop registering and read other posts

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Hey Shadroch, good jumping in point. I am a comp whore!...

Great. I'll trade you a buffet pass for a... :joker:

Good choice of blackjack authors. Best advice I can add is that in AC deciding which tables and hands not to play is the most valuable skill you can develop. Backcounting and Wonging out are the most effective ways to play most of the games in the city.

 

[nj45lady]

To be brutally honest, everyone on here clearly knows much more than I could ever hope to know. However, I am intelligent, and I learn fast. I have common sense, tenacity, and courage. I am attacking these 8 deck games by following your advice about backcounting and wonging. I only play on positive counts. I sit out on negative counts. I sit out, get in when it goes positive, and sometimes one hand can make a +2 go to -2 with a full table and I sit out again. I perservere, I sit sometimes a FULL SHOE without a bet unless the pit comes over and I make a bet so they dont think I sit as much as I sit out. If I could ramp up my bets more I'd bring home more cash, but since I am trying to make sure I am playing right, I haven't done it very much. I still have trouble with the count when I pull a slew of low cards and have to count and hit etc. I over my last 6 trips have lost $350 my first time counting over 3 days of play, broke even, up 100, up 180, broke even, and up 300 at $10 tables, the day I lost I was forced into playing a $15 table no ability to backcount and had to play more than I wanted to. Please, keep the knowledge coming, it is providing to be extremely useful to me!

 

[standard toaster]

To be brutally honest, everyone on here clearly knows much more than I could ever hope to know. However, I am intelligent, and I learn fast. I have common sense, tenacity, and courage. I am attacking these 8 deck games by following your advice about backcounting and wonging. I only play on positive counts. I sit out on negative counts. I sit out, get in when it goes positive, and sometimes one hand can make a +2 go to -2 with a full table and I sit out again. I perservere, I sit sometimes a FULL SHOE without a bet unless the pit comes over and I make a bet so they dont think I sit as much as I sit out. If I could ramp up my bets more I'd bring home more cash, but since I am trying to make sure I am playing right, I haven't done it very much. I still have trouble with the count when I pull a slew of low cards and have to count and hit etc. I over my last 6 trips have lost $350 my first time counting over 3 days of play, broke even, up 100, up 180, broke even, and up 300 at $10 tables, the day I lost I was forced into playing a $15 table no ability to backcount and had to play more than I wanted to. Please, keep the knowledge coming, it is providing to be extremely useful to me!

you should probably start your own thread that way you will get much more attention and you wont be accused of hijacking someones thread. But anyway qfit has a program called casino verite it is absolutley amazing. It was created strictly for counting and you can alter anything you want. As you play it will generate graphs and charts as to how you are playing. It also has "games" to teach you different skills such as counting multiple cards whole tables conversions whatever you could imagine. I would suggest that before you get back out there build up a bankroll and practice on casino verite. It is one of the best resources available to you