Does this strategy work?

#21
well yes and no. like I had a horrible seq of cards and it was all stiffs but dealer showed the 10 vs the small card. so to counter it i took a risk. already losing 3 rounds of it i just stood and let the dealer bust. was it a gamble sure, as i do basic like a fanatic zealot. after that single play the deck was still doing the same kinda cards as i noticed then next round but the 1 shift in card made it a sweet victory.

i love recounting the different plays and such. i feel lucky / blessed and to anyone who doesn't think basic doesn't work your wrong. its like the bible have faith you will be rewarded. my family doesn't believe the amount of money i made. i think the sour part is all i had to do was read a book and have some discipline / no greed & gluttony.
 
#22
o lemme add this theory in for you too.

OK true or false? if your cooking and your in a bad **** mood and don't give a f_ck, the food you make will still be the food but be off a lil just not done right.

VS

now your in a great mood cooking to your hearts content, you make same food and its awesome just right.

now apply that to shuffling and cards. dealer likes you and wants you to win, so that energy is focused into the cards n shuffle.

VS

f_ck my job i hate you, the world and my job. shuffle from doom yet its still a shuffle.

sure you can argue it doesn't matter, BUT how about any advantage you get when its in your favor. i know hypothetical, no way to figure the math but still food for thought.
 

bjhack

Well-Known Member
#23
Variance is a Bitch

I'm a BS player, understanding I'm going to lose about 50 cents for every $100 I bet (more-or-less, depending on the game).

I've seen wide swings, betting minimums (typically $5 (no, not 6:5) to $15), depending on game. Over time, realistically I'm probably at around that 50 cent loss level. ("Big" wins tend to distort things; for example, I've done better in LV than the local casino, even though the local casino offers a superior game).

I'm too lazy to do the math, but the expectation, given the betting level, may be within a couple standard deviations, which wouldn't be unheard of.
 

Katweezel

Well-Known Member
#24
Forrest Grumps

Colde86 said:
o lemme add this theory in for you too.

OK true or false? if your cooking and your in a bad **** mood and don't give a f_ck, the food you make will still be the food but be off a lil just not done right.

VS

now your in a great mood cooking to your hearts content, you make same food and its awesome just right.

now apply that to shuffling and cards. dealer likes you and wants you to win, so that energy is focused into the cards n shuffle.

VS

f_ck my job i hate you, the world and my job. shuffle from doom yet its still a shuffle.

sure you can argue it doesn't matter, BUT how about any advantage you get when its in your favor. i know hypothetical, no way to figure the math but still food for thought.
Interesting food for thought Colde, (and for voodoo.) Those few food establishments that pay attention to energy do better than those that don't, is my guess. I go to a usually-crowded Hare Krishna vegetarian restaurant in Sydney occasionally, just for the experience. The food is exquisitely delicious like you wouldn't believe... (and I am not a vegetarian.) Their secret: "Everything is done with love."

Yeah, right, so all we need to do is get the dealer to deal with love.;)
Do you hunt around checking for the correct energy in a dealer, before you sit? I think somebody here used to do stuff like this with dowsing rods, pendulums, incantations, spells, chanting, prayer, holy water, jade, amulets and good luck charms. Take your pick. Whatever works.

One spell that probably works great on just about every dealer, even the Forrest Grumps of the world: A smile and a toke as soon as you sit. :cat:
 
#25
lol no i dont scout happy dealers, BUT if the cards are just f_cking horrible and its all bad lucky IE double down 20 and dealer catching 6-10-5 for 21 like back to back then I'll ask the dealer how his or her attitude is, whats they are feeling and such just before he/ she shuffles. if I dont like what I hear then I look for greener pastures.

Now out here I would take a break when this one dealer would get switched in. She was slow, dealing and mentally. She would stutter and do all these annoying quirks. EVERY time I played against her it was not pretty so after I got nailed I said enough is enough and just take my breaks when shes in. I had a dealer who knew how I was going to play and she would give me so many hands per hour. I would tip her decent. There was another dealer who was always happy and wanted us to win. Older guy and I think he liked the fact that someone stuck it to the guy that sticking him.

Hell I turned on a pit boss, He had a horrible habit of breathing down on you, putting pressure I guess lol. So one day he came up I greeted and started to play. He snuck behind me and I basically just hugged him and put my arm around him. He backed off after that. Ordered a drink too acted a lil drunk (I don't drink when I play, It is a Business, and I take my play serious) after messing with him I went to eat lol. Turning bad intentions into positive and always when ever I can in my favor.

In a game of advantages and %s why not try to stack as much good in your favor. IMO ANYTHING that makes you play better, whether it be feeling confident or being able to camo real well since your comfy anything at all is an advantage.

I guess this was a popular thread, TY for all the support guys I can't stress it enough, We are a dime a dozen and together They will always fear our brain power :)
 

Unshake

Well-Known Member
#26
Colde86 said:
They will always fear our brain power :)
:laugh:

To counter your super human brain power casinos will begin hiring all unhappy dealers to focus their negative energy. Also, they will force you to play only one hand so you can't change the sequence. It will be a sad day with the angry dealers and players only playing one hand. :cool2::cool2:
 

Katweezel

Well-Known Member
#27
Fearless Cashinos

Unshake said:
:laugh:

To counter your super human brain power casinos will begin hiring all unhappy dealers to focus their negative energy. Also, they will force you to play only one hand so you can't change the sequence. It will be a sad day with the angry dealers and players only playing one hand. :cool2::cool2:
Originally Posted by Colde86 View Post
They will always fear our brain power

In light of Sonny's dismal predictive figure of 1:10,000 for the numbers of proficient card counters, cashinos have little to fear from such a small pool of brain power.:(
 
#28
LOL you wanna hear something funny, just after they backed me off, I went in and they where going to let me play but I had extra rules. 2hand max when I go down to 1 I cant move it back up. some other baloney too. Funny thing is I was excited as I was going to document and build a case out of it. Discrimination case, and basically either make a change for all BJ player or if it wasn't solid enough take the settlement.

While we are on this subject, is there any way to sue or get them in trouble for the backing. I never seen them back someone when the lose 30k, but you win 10k in some way they don't like BAM your out.

I saw a BJ special on TV about Tommy Highland. He used to get settlements out of the casinos but I can't seem to find much information about him or any of that. I'd love to either get paid to shut up or stick it to them 5x as hard. They screw millions of people, about time we screwed them back.

Sonny no comments, I hope the thread didn't just bore you away :(
 
#29
Unshake said:
:laugh:

To counter your super human brain power casinos will begin hiring all unhappy dealers to focus their negative energy. Also, they will force you to play only one hand so you can't change the sequence. It will be a sad day with the angry dealers and players only playing one hand. :cool2::cool2:
Here's some thought against that. Endplay is the technique, But now you use it and just hit the cards like mad :) You know the face down games, just keep hitting and pull a 36 lol. Try it for fun. I read about a guy doing it and I quote "I just wanted to enjoy busting and losing for once." Talk about getting wise LOL
 
#30
Katweezel said:
Originally Posted by Colde86 View Post
They will always fear our brain power

In light of Sonny's dismal predictive figure of 1:10,000 for the numbers of proficient card counters, casinos have little to fear from such a small pool of brain power.:(
True but such a small amount and BAM their world is in turmoil.

Perhaps then we should start looking into a casino of our own? Like I said there is one where I live, if i had a million I would make an offer and get a loan for it as well. Its profiting even in this economy and they are doing it all wrong.
 

Katweezel

Well-Known Member
#31
Boot yerself?

Colde86 said:
True but such a small amount and BAM their world is in turmoil.

Perhaps then we should start looking into a casino of our own? Like I said there is one where I live, if i had a million I would make an offer and get a loan for it as well. Its profiting even in this economy and they are doing it all wrong.
So in your CasinoColde86, would you give yourself the boot? :cat:
 
#32
honestly, I would think about giving him a job. Rather then him beat me @ my game I would consider paying him and getting something for my money.

Otherwise I would just lower the limits down to w/e we felt we could beat him at in the long run. That would cut him down lil by lil. Since as the casino I figure I can beat him when he chases his money too far. Otherwise No on the boot, its bad publicity, and in such a small town you lose 1 person you lose 20, and you need all the people you can get obviously.
 
#33
Hey. I am a new member...I found this thread as I am looking for new betting strategies. This thread was great.

I believe in the power of positive thought and actions....I completely agree on the dealer's attitude...they can change the game. Here's to postive, fun dealers.
 

Martin Gayle

Well-Known Member
#34
Sonny said:
That's easy. Your disadvantage is equal to the house edge. Your strategy does not give you any advantage at all. You should expect to lose at the same rate as any other player.

-Sonny-
He said the dealers were making errors. Depending on what the error rate is AND an error never hurt him he may be playing an +EV game afterall (he may but I doubt it).
 
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