Electronic BJ machines

[jersax]

The PA Casino's have these machines. I have heard that each player and the dealer have there own 6 deck shoe. I have also heard that the game is played with a single deck and is shuffled after each hand. are either of these correct or do they use some other set up?

 

[johndoe]

The PA Casino's have these machines. I have heard that each player and the dealer have there own 6 deck shoe. I have also heard that the game is played with a single deck and is shuffled after each hand. are either of these correct or do they use some other set up?

Both could be correct. I think it's most likely they use a 6-deck shoe and shuffle after each hand. Each player may even have their own shoe.

Either way, not really worth wasting your time on.

 

[kewljason]

The PA Casino's have these machines. I have heard that each player and the dealer have there own 6 deck shoe. I have also heard that the game is played with a single deck and is shuffled after each hand. are either of these correct or do they use some other set up?

In Pa, the way the law is written, one players actions can not effect the outcome of another player. For this reason each player, including the dealer draws from a seperate shoe or bank of cards. I am not whether the cards are shuffled after each round or at some predetermined point. I have never heard that discussed and you cannot tell by watching or playing the game.

 

[Kasi]

For this reason each player, including the dealer draws from a seperate shoe or bank of cards. I am not whether the cards are shuffled after each round or at some predetermined point.

It's late - just made me wonder what one would actually do if a real-life dealer had his own 6 deck shoe, and the heads-up player had his own real-life 6 deck shoe and each had a cut card at 75% in the Beginning and each got re-shuffled whenever his individual 6D shoe hit the cut card then what the heck might change if anything. Since each 6 decks would have it's own TC or would you just kind of go with the flow of 12 decks to start and then he re-shuffles sooner than you have to re-shuffle and adjust from there

Talk about a meaningless question lol.

Doubt if this fact of virtual separate 6D shoes in PA (I believe it to be the case like you) has much of an effect on Basic Strategy House Edge.

 

[10JQKA]

It's late - just made me wonder what one would actually do if a real-life dealer had his own 6 deck shoe, and the heads-up player had his own real-life 6 deck shoe and each had a cut card at 75% in the Beginning and each got re-shuffled whenever his individual 6D shoe hit the cut card then what the heck might change if anything. Since each 6 decks would have it's own TC or would you just kind of go with the flow of 12 decks to start and then he re-shuffles sooner than you have to re-shuffle and adjust from there

Talk about a meaningless question lol.

Doubt if this fact of virtual separate 6D shoes in PA (I believe it to be the case like you) has much of an effect on Basic Strategy House Edge.

There would be a massive increase in variance I believe, you are still just as likely to get a TC of + X or -Y as the dealer but you will just have them at different intervals.

If the dealer has a +8TC and you have a -8TC then you would be at around a 9%? disagvantage and vice versa, obviously around 8% not 9%.

The only advantage would come if you could wong in on these games when the dealer had a strong negative count and the player had a strong positive, wong-ing into a 5%+ advantage would be not uncommon.

NB: The figures are as hyperthetical as the question.