First Casino Trip. Am i ready?
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8 decks, no peeking!!
well il have to live with that, my sources aren't very observant and i was basing it on a free cbjn thing from 2007.
and yea im not 21 yet. the closet casino i know of across the border that is 18+ is like 3 hours away.
but at least its something to start on rather than csms.
what type of edge do they have then?
well il have to live with that, my sources aren't very observant and i was basing it on a free cbjn thing from 2007.
and yea im not 21 yet. the closet casino i know of across the border that is 18+ is like 3 hours away.
but at least its something to start on rather than csms.
what type of edge do they have then?
Your information is correct
It is 6 decks, and while they don't take a hole card, they only take the original bet if the dealer gets a blackjack so the regular H17 LS DAS strategy is correct.
If you play 2 hands, the house rule is you need to bet twice the table minimum on each hand, so you're better off playing 1 hand of $5 in 0 to negative counts (or even better, sit out until it gets positive) and try to spread to 2 hands when it does go positive. Creatively sitting at either first or 3rd base and primarily betting on the adjacent spot can help you "hog" the 2nd spot for positive counts.
Back of the napkin calculation for betting full-kelly (13.5% ROR) shows you need about a $6000 non-replenishable bankroll to have a max bet of 2x$50. You're pretty safe bringing $1500-2000 for any given session (believe me, you will need that much on some rough nights).
General formula is:
(Bank / 266) * (True Count - 1) = Full Kelly bet on one hand
Playing 2 hands you should bet about 75% of the optimal amount on each hand.
In any case, be prepared for large swings. Don't get over-confident if you win lots at the beginning, and don't get discouraged if you lose a few max bets in a row at sky-high counts. If you have the discipline and nerves to trust in the math, you can make a little money.
It is 6 decks, and while they don't take a hole card, they only take the original bet if the dealer gets a blackjack so the regular H17 LS DAS strategy is correct.
If you play 2 hands, the house rule is you need to bet twice the table minimum on each hand, so you're better off playing 1 hand of $5 in 0 to negative counts (or even better, sit out until it gets positive) and try to spread to 2 hands when it does go positive. Creatively sitting at either first or 3rd base and primarily betting on the adjacent spot can help you "hog" the 2nd spot for positive counts.
Back of the napkin calculation for betting full-kelly (13.5% ROR) shows you need about a $6000 non-replenishable bankroll to have a max bet of 2x$50. You're pretty safe bringing $1500-2000 for any given session (believe me, you will need that much on some rough nights).
General formula is:
(Bank / 266) * (True Count - 1) = Full Kelly bet on one hand
Playing 2 hands you should bet about 75% of the optimal amount on each hand.
In any case, be prepared for large swings. Don't get over-confident if you win lots at the beginning, and don't get discouraged if you lose a few max bets in a row at sky-high counts. If you have the discipline and nerves to trust in the math, you can make a little money.
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la_dee_daa said:
But if YOU knew me you would know i am in your terms "cant possibly be serious" in my own "good" element :laugh: ( i get it a lot )
Just be careful and conservative at the beginning lol.
But, for God's sake, whatever you do, please don't play if you are under-aged
Kasi said:
But, for God's sake, whatever you do, please don't play if you are under-aged
one guy i know has been constantly playing at casinos for the last 2 years has yet to turn 19 yet plays both in the USA and canada and all that ever happens is they kick him out and nothing else if that!
In other places do they acutally take any action agaist minors or is it just where i live that they don't seem to care?
First Casino Trip!!!!! Today
well i finally got to go the casiso today considering a was still sick on my birthday. went with a couple of friends and played for about an hour. It was packed and took 20min for me to find a table that had a spot open with a $5 min. i finally did got third base position so i could see all the cards. had some fairly slow lady dealer for about half a shoe just better $5 highest the true count got was like 1.5..... so i just threw out a couple $10 bets so no real action. after half a shoe she switched out and i got some crazy fast dealer compared to all the other dealers dealing faster then he should have as he fumbled the cards every few deals. I kept up ahead of him counting so i would have my count when he would be dealing the first person. Friends kept pestering me to bet more when the count was negative which was kinda annoying. The penetration was good dealing down to about one deck but the table was completly full. ended up $10 ahead.... yes a very big win. probably going to play the $5 tables a few more times then bump up to the $10 ones or backcount the $25 tables so i dont have to play in negative counts so often.
other then that i played my basic strategy perfectly and only had the opportunity for a few index play during negative counts.
the door guy who id me wished me happy birthday though
well i finally got to go the casiso today considering a was still sick on my birthday. went with a couple of friends and played for about an hour. It was packed and took 20min for me to find a table that had a spot open with a $5 min. i finally did got third base position so i could see all the cards. had some fairly slow lady dealer for about half a shoe just better $5 highest the true count got was like 1.5..... so i just threw out a couple $10 bets so no real action. after half a shoe she switched out and i got some crazy fast dealer compared to all the other dealers dealing faster then he should have as he fumbled the cards every few deals. I kept up ahead of him counting so i would have my count when he would be dealing the first person. Friends kept pestering me to bet more when the count was negative which was kinda annoying. The penetration was good dealing down to about one deck but the table was completly full. ended up $10 ahead.... yes a very big win. probably going to play the $5 tables a few more times then bump up to the $10 ones or backcount the $25 tables so i dont have to play in negative counts so often.
other then that i played my basic strategy perfectly and only had the opportunity for a few index play during negative counts.
the door guy who id me wished me happy birthday though
yea its kinda ridiculose at the $5 tables just trying to find a spot. i just want to get into the flow of things then il either play the $10 or $25 ones and backcount hopping around where spots are open actually!
considering i didn't know where to place my double downs or splits the first couple time. dealer had to keep moving my chips to the right spot.
considering i didn't know where to place my double downs or splits the first couple time. dealer had to keep moving my chips to the right spot.