Free Drinks

[Dyepaintball12]

Hey all

I have a question about free drinks, which I hear alot about on this forum.

I have only played at 3 casinos so far, and in 1 I got free coke products, another there was waitresses, and the 3rd there was nothing (Cruise Ship).

At ALL of these places, you had to pay for the alcohol you ordered. Not just tipping, but actually pay for the beer.

My question is: Where are you guys playing where it is free and you can "drink more than you lose"?

I have played in a Indian Casino in Michigan, a Carnival Cruise Ship, and Casino Windsor, Canada.


Thanks!

David

 

[Cardcounter]

Nevada!

In Nevada the casinos give away free drinks all the time it doesn't matter if you are in LakeTahoe or Las Vegas. It is the only state which gives away more alcohol than it sells. In my opinion these free drinks cost the players why more than the cost of them to the casino and that is why there are given away!

 

[EasyRhino]

Last month in Vegas, was hanging out with my stepdad, and he says "Hey, let's grab a beer," to which I immediately responded "I only drink when I'm playing". And I was being stone cold serious.

But even though the drinks are pretty weak, free booze makes me proud to be an American.

 

[Jerome]

The Seneca Niagara (U.S. side) provides "free" alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages to active players.

 

[ChefJJ]

Last month in Vegas, was hanging out with my stepdad, and he says "Hey, let's grab a beer," to which I immediately responded "I only drink when I'm playing". And I was being stone cold serious.

But even though the drinks are pretty weak, free booze makes me proud to be an American.

LOL...damn right! I laugh when the "experts" tell you to NEVER DRINK WHILE PLAYING because you'll lose your edge. Grow a pair and "practice some drinking" at home so you aren't such a one-pump chump. Have your cake and eat it too. Like we've said plenty of times around here, card counting should be practiced so you can do it subconciously at the casino...so practice at home with a beer or two

I thought only Nevada and AC casinos were the only US ones to give away alcohol to players. The only other places I've gambled outside of NV and AC are Indiana, Detroit, and Windsor. They'll give you free non-alcoholic drinks, but not beer & booze for free.

Oh yeah, I've been to the Cherokee casino too...nice place, no alcohol--and crappy blackjack rules.

good luck

 

[GeorgeD]

In Niagara Falls, Ontario they also only do free non-alcoholic drinks. My understanding is because they're gov't run and the laws prohibit free booze. Can't smoke there either. Probably why I see so many Canadians in the US Side Seneca Niagara Casino.

 

[ChefJJ]

George,

good point about the government thing. If I understand correctly, that's the difference in the case of Nevada where the state statutes allow for the serving of free alcoholic beverages. The other states (don't know the deal for AC) probably prohibit that activity.

 

[shadroch]

When NY State outlawed free liquor in the late 1990s,it exempted casinos from the law. Which I found bizarre as there were no casinos operating legally in NY State at the time.

 

[SystemsTrader]

When NY State outlawed free liquor in the late 1990s,it exempted casinos from the law. Which I found bizarre as there were no casinos operating legally in NY State at the time.

Of the four casinos in New York only Seneca and Allegany serve free booze.

 

[Kasi]

When NY State outlawed free liquor in the late 1990s,it exempted casinos from the law. Which I found bizarre as there were no casinos operating legally in NY State at the time.

So where WERE they serving free liquour in NY before they passed the law?

Wished I had known then

 

[iwantblackjack]

When NY State outlawed free liquor in the late 1990s,it exempted casinos from the law. Which I found bizarre as there were no casinos operating legally in NY State at the time.

Sorry this is late: The exemption was probably for casinos operating in Indian Nations in NY, such as: Turning Stone (opened 1993), Akwesasne Mohawk (1999), Niagara Falls' Seneca Niagara Casino (2002), Seneca Allegany Casino & Hotel (2004?, expanded 2006); plus the gaming tracks like Saratoga, Vernon, Batavia, Monticello, Yonkers.

 

[GeorgeD]

So where WERE they serving free liquour in NY before they passed the law?

Wished I had known then

Only in the mob operated joints.

 

[MartyAce]

A place in minnesota doesnt serve free drinks in the public area, but if you go to the high roller room which has three tables and is not really a high roller room since the minimum on one of the tables if $15 and the rest are $25 with a max of $500.. but if your playing here basically the pit will 'comp' you free alcoholic drinks all day.

 

[GeorgeD]

Sorry this is late: The exemption was probably for casinos operating in Indian Nations in NY, such as: Turning Stone (opened 1993), Akwesasne Mohawk (1999), Niagara Falls' Seneca Niagara Casino (2002), Seneca Allegany Casino & Hotel (2004?, expanded 2006); plus the gaming tracks like Saratoga, Vernon, Batavia, Monticello, Yonkers.

I don't know if Indian Nations need an exemption. The Casinos are on Sovereign Native Territory, so I expect the state has no control. I thought it was the same concept that lets them sell cigs and gas tax free.

Someone said in NY State only the Seneca Casinos have free booze. Maybe it's something ruled on by the Tribal Councils.

 

[shadroch]

Lots of places. For example....
We used to have a keg party every Friday nite at my first bar.First keg was free,second was fifty cents a mug,third was a buck.
We'd also have all sorts of promos with liquor companies where we'd give free shots.
On your birthday,if you came with more than six people,I'd toss in a bottle of Roget.
Happy hours were buy one,get one free.

A lot of these promos still go on,as the SLA doesn't enforce the law unless they have an issue with a particular club.

 

[NDN21]

I don't know if Indian Nations need an exemption. The Casinos are on Sovereign Native Territory, so I expect the state has no control. I thought it was the same concept that lets them sell cigs and gas tax free.

Someone said in NY State only the Seneca Casinos have free booze. Maybe it's something ruled on by the Tribal Councils.

In order for something, anything to be legal on Indian nations land that something must also be legal in the state in which the Indian nations land is in.

Whatever the liquor laws are in New York, the indian tribes have to follow those also. My tribe here in oklahoma, the cheyenne-arapaho's, can sell beer at the Lucky Star Casino. But we cannot serve hard liqour because the state will not issue a liqour license to us.

That is why, in Oklahoma, there is no full class III gaming allowed on native land, because full class III gaming is not allowed in the State of Oklahoma. Now Oklahoma has some class III elements (poker, house-banked blackjack, pari-mutuel betting, lottery, scratch-off cards) but not anymore than that which, by Oklahoma definitions, are games of chance.

Selling cigs and gas is legal in the states so it is legal on indian land. Prostitution is not legal in most states, so it is not legal on Indian land, marijuana is not legal in most states so it's not legal on indian land, that sort of thing.

 

[GeorgeD]

Selling cigs and gas is legal in the states so it is legal on indian land. Prostitution is not legal in most states, so it is not legal on Indian land, marijuana is not legal in most states so it's not legal on indian land, that sort of thing.

Makes sense. I always wondered why the nation didn't sell pot (or more), but figured they would get too hassled or it would bring too much trouble.

Still, I wonder how it is they can sell tax free to non natives since it is the law elsewhere to collect and pay sales tax. NY has and is challenging this issue, but it draws tremendous protest from natives ..... even brought the closing of an interstate once. They used barricades of burning tires where it crossed their land.

 

[Mimosine]

Makes sense. I always wondered why the nation didn't sell pot (or more), but figured they would get too hassled or it would bring too much trouble.

Still, I wonder how it is they can sell tax free to non natives since it is the law elsewhere to collect and pay sales tax. NY has and is challenging this issue, but it draws tremendous protest from natives ..... even brought the closing of an interstate once. They used barricades of burning tires where it crossed their land.

Was in NY when that happened....

Being a soverign land still means they have to abide by Federal law as well - hence no controlled substances as they are regulated by the DEA.

The tax code is a slightly different issue. The case should be pretty strong for natives to not pay taxes, where are their representatives in the government? there aren't any! instead we had/have things like the "Bureau of Indian Afairs."

The issue of selling tax free to non-natives is similar to how if i (living in CA) purchase something from NV or NY let's say through the mail - I won't be charged sales tax on these purchases as a matter of law. I think there are other ways to get reimbursed for buying something inside a state in which you don't live but i don't think it is worth the trouble.... could be wrong on this latter point.

 

[Kasi]

First keg was free,second was fifty cents a mug,third was a buck.

Guess you have to charge 10 cents to make that first keg legal now lol!

Glad this free drink topic is getting the attention it deserves.

Come to think of it I play at this golf course where there's a box to put your "donation" in for beer. $1 in, 10 beers out

In AC the drinks are so weak, they're not worth the $1 you tip the waitress. I tried getting a bottle of beer, after like 10 vodkas, so maybe I could at least get a buzz or something, but they only offered watered-down 10 oz drafts. O well, there goes my positive EV :grin: Next time I'm gonna be smart and order double Absolute on the rocks and see if I can taste anything.

 

[rogue1]

how about buybacks?

Years ago in the good old Irish bars (and others) in NYC they gave you a free drink after you bought 3 drinks and it was called a buyback-is that practice now illegal in New York?