Shoe from hell
mathman said:
OK I've been playing this game a long time. I've earned allot, I've lost allot, I've seen allot and there is one thing in 6 and 8 deck shoes I can't quite understand. There is a post up in the card counting forum titled "Are my results normal (or close)?". In that post the author talks about weird occurrences during his last visit where nobody is winning. I know we all have experienced this, it just seems, at times, no one can win. No matter what happens the dealer is able to make hands but you can't nor can anyone else. The count is negative, you hit your 12 and bust, yet the dealer can draw 4 and 5 cards during a positive count. If you have 20 the dealers get 20 or make a 5 card 21. You have 19 and the dealer has 20. You don't get a blackjack for hours but every shoe, no matter what casino you play that night, the dealer has 2 or 3 blackjacks. The little bit that the count does go positive the dealer draws the cards. When these freaky nights come with high counts you always draw an ace or a low card on your doubled 11 and the dealer always has a pat hand. Yet when the dealer shows a 5, he flips a 6 and draws 10 every time. Over and over again no matter where you go. So I ask...Why does this happen? I thought this might be interesting to talk about and obviously it belongs in this section. Some people call it the dealer from hell, others just refer to it as bad variance. However it's not just us, it seems to be happening to every player, ploppie on up at the same time. Who knows maybe we can come up with a real reason why this happens instead of just voodoo. Let's have some fun....JtMM
That is a pretty much in-depth rave there mate, from someone with a Math-name like yours; slap bang in the middle of a voodoo board... My contribution will not even mention the usual
voodoo suspects: the dealer bust card; somebody gotta take a hit for the table; the dealer is
due for a bust... and the like. I won't mention the dealer from hell either because Tarzan's told us of his dealer pal who has been there, done that, more than once.
I also won't mention zg's pendulum, good luck charms, amulets and biorythms. None of these things has anything to do with what Mathman is talking about. Either does this last thing I am not going to mention:
variance. But Bootlegger
is going to mention it. Here is his description from his
glossary:
Variance: "This can be determined by subtracting the expected value from each possible outcome in a game or hand, squaring the differences and multiplying each square by its probability of occurring and then summing the total of the product."
Luckily, Boot has a math Professor looking over his shoulder who can explain in simple terms what that means. As for us mere mortals who are a little math-deficient, he lost me on: '...each possible outcome in a game or hand... I'll try to remember that definition, if I ever play in a 7-player table again.
So if variance has nothing to do with it, what does? I'm attempting to answer this with wise quotes from notables down through history...
"I'm going to give 110% on every play. You can't give any more than that." Jimmy Johnson
"Confidence is the feeling you have before you understand the situation." Anon
"I want to make sure everyone who has a job wants a job." GWB
"Suckers have no business with money anyway." Canada Bill Jones
"Luck's always to blame." Jean de la Fontaine
"Dear Lord, help me break even. I need the money." American proverb
"Sometimes a grain of luck worth more than field of knowledge." Charlie Chan
Something there may have helped unlock Mathman's puzzle... If you spot it, let me know. Here is something else that may contain an answer...
29K7J510A349Q8651038Q7410310K52J48AA6Q9K6K9Q48J3J107A57Q6
21057J8J3A6449810J7Q3K8Q2A85K610467A4J59Q6927KK32A5Q31035
A sequence of 104 cards. Is there a clue there anywhere that this sequence could turn out to be part of a 6-deck shoe from the dealer from hell? Or that this could be a 6-deck from hell? :cat: