Harrah's Comps

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rpd709

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Hello,

My local casino which is Caesars Indiana seems to be stingy on their comps to me.

I am a platinum player and can't seem to get crap anymore.

All I've played since beginning of the year is blackjack and the only offer I've got is a measly $49 dollar room Sun-Thurs

My tier score is 2500 (4000 needed to retain Platinum).

All I get in the mail is 3x reward credit garbage that I don't need

What can I do to get some freaking comps from Harrahs?

I have a friend that is a gold player and he hardly ever goes and he goes online and can get 4-5 nights in a row comped at Caesars Indiana.

Help is appreciated.
 
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rpd709

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It just gets on my nerves that a guy that never goes can get a week free comp room and even cash coupons in the mail and all I get is garbage.

I'm not all that great at video poker so I'll just stick with Blackjack.

I feel I am rather decent. Although it kicked my ass the other night... Huge stretches of 18s 19s and 20s and dealer beats by one almost everytime. Next thing I know I'm 600 down

Anyway.

I guess the only thing positive I can get comp rooms in Vegas about anytime.
 
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shadroch

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Marketing offers actually increase the less often you play,and decrease the more you play.They have you,why should they reward you? They want to intice your friend,who by resisting is increasing his offers.
Do you check your online offers? I often find offers I didn't get a card for.
 
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rpd709

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Yeah I check my offers online.

I get 3X REWARD CREDITS, SPECIAL LAS VEGAS RATES, A BLACKJACK TOURNAMENT WITH 3 FREE NIGHTS AT FLAMINGO and some other garbage.

Just pisses me off I can't/don't get **** while some guy that hardly plays gets the wad.

$15 - $20 cash coupons, Free Rooms
 
EasyRhino

EasyRhino

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Wait, three free night and a free tourney? That's pretty good.

Among other things, Harrah's tracks what your average daily theoretical loss is over the last six days.

If your friend barely plays, but played a lot a year ago, the system is going to remember that, and try to entice him back. Sure, he doesn't play often, but when he does, it's worth the comps. In other words, one big session is much better than six small ones, from a comp-chasing perspective.
 
Automatic Monkey

Automatic Monkey

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21forme said:
Especially Harrahs. They keep taking more and more table games out of their AC casinos and adding machines.
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Of course. Table games= work. You have to pay dealers, PC's, surveillance. With slots you don't even have to pay for the machines, you can just lease them. You don't even need to hire change people any more.
 
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21forme

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Automatic Monkey said:
Of course. Table games= work. You have to pay dealers, PC's, surveillance. With slots you don't even have to pay for the machines, you can just lease them. You don't even need to hire change people any more.
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But... That's why AC's revenues are going down, down, down. With slot parlors in PA, DE and NY now, they can't compete (despite poorer payouts at places like Phila Park.) They need to offer what the neighboring states can't - table games.
 
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shadroch

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Total Reward comps and marketing offers are two entirely different beasts. The very best can exploit both of them.It's not easy. Takes dedication,years of practice and the patience of Jobe,but it can be done.
 
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Carmine782

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rpd709 said:
Yeah I check my offers online.

I get 3X REWARD CREDITS, SPECIAL LAS VEGAS RATES, A BLACKJACK TOURNAMENT WITH 3 FREE NIGHTS AT FLAMINGO and some other garbage.

Just pisses me off I can't/don't get **** while some guy that hardly plays gets the wad.

$15 - $20 cash coupons, Free Rooms
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Log in to the Harrah's Website click on Resevations you can select any of the properites around the country, it show would comp dates you are qualified for all over the country, They just added this feature a year ago i think, its great! It got me a suite in Vegas and i didnt have to talk to a host or anything. BTW...If you reach Diamond Level you can get Exclusive Host Service, Thats a nice tool to get free meals, shows, rooms etc that you wouldnt ordinally get in the mail. I play at Harrah's all the time, i love there reward program. I am Diamond, I have 12,000 Tier Credits for this year already. I was diamond for the past 2 years, the best part is the diamond lounge, you never have to pay for a meal at the casino again!

BTW...Can i ask what your average bet/time at table is? I play 90% Blackjack at Harrah's Occassionly Craps...
 
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Carmine782

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rpd709 said:
Well I talked to one guy and he said my average bet is $25 although my average playing time is high.
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Yeah unfornately, you wont get much at that level beyond maybe a free buffet here and there and small cash coupons. They really look for black level action before they give out hotel rooms. but remember thats how they want you to think, the more you bet the more you will lose unless you play with an advantage. So if you a a non-AP like i am (I am Perfect BS Player), only bet what you can afford to lose, and set limits for yourself, and have fun.

Carmine
 
moo321

moo321

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Carmine782 said:
Yeah unfornately, you wont get much at that level beyond maybe a free buffet here and there and small cash coupons. They really look for black level action before they give out hotel rooms. but remember thats how they want you to think, the more you bet the more you will lose unless you play with an advantage. So if you a a non-AP like i am (I am Perfect BS Player), only bet what you can afford to lose, and set limits for yourself, and have fun.

Carmine
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I've gotten rooms at Harrah's properties for green chip play. Are you talking about marketing offers for rooms?
 
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Cardcounter

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Harrah's

Harrah's has some of the worst blackjack rules that I have seen. For that reason playing at Harrah's is not my first choice. I have gotten free room offers from them even though I have played very little there.
 
Automatic Monkey

Automatic Monkey

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21forme said:
But... That's why AC's revenues are going down, down, down. With slot parlors in PA, DE and NY now, they can't compete (despite poorer payouts at places like Phila Park.) They need to offer what the neighboring states can't - table games.
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That makes perfect sense and that's exactly what doesn't work in large organizations. At a company like HET you have dozens and dozens of executives all in competition with one another, and the goal is to sell ideas to protect your job, make yourself look good and make your competitors (fellow executives, NOT other casinos) look bad in comparison.

So a business plan doesn't really have to work, it just has to make you look good in a meeting and if it doesn't work, you can fix that later. Blame someone else. That's why they'll shut down BJ tables and let dealers dance for 8 hours at empty Let It Ride and Caribbean Stud tables- someone was shown a spreadsheet where these games are more profitable, the order came down and that's the way it's going to be.
 
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