Have you ever been banned?

Dyepaintball12

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#2
You've been told Casinos don't ban people anymore?

I've been told several times over the past couple months that I "can't play blackjack here anymore" but never banned. Although people do certainly still get banned.
 

johndoe

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#3
If you keep coming back to play BJ when you've been previously backed off, and they catch you, they'll eventually ban you. Getting caught with fake ID's and/or multiple players cards will also do it.
 

tensplitter

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#4
If they see you as a medium stakes counter who plays other -ev games then you'll be backed off from blackjack. If you're a high stakes counter spreading 1000-10000+ then expect to get banned.
 

Sucker

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#6
Yes; they still ban people, all the time. Somewhere in Las Vegas, someone will probably get banned today, and tomorrow; etc. If they think that you're someone that they do not want in their casino, FOR ANY REASON; they will ban you. Period.

This policy lumps pickpockets, cheaters, muggers, theives, murderers; and card counters into the same category (although most casinos would probably not ban a murderer, as long as he didn't kill one of their paying customers). If you get banned in a casino, any friend or friends that you have with you will probably ALSO get banned. If they see you talking to a stranger, that person may ALSO get banned. I've even had them ban everyone who happened to be sitting at the same blackjack table with me, just in case one of them was a partner of mine (sometimes they're even RIGHT!) :grin:. If you're driving down Las Vegas Blvd and get caught with drugs in your car, some casinos will ban you from their property even if the arrest took place no where near the property, and even if you're a rich & famous celebrity. The casinos will also sometimes will send your name, address, birthdate, picture, and other identifying info around to all other casinos in the area, so that if they see you,THEY can ban you also.

There are different degrees of banning, from a simple "Sir, you can play any game in here except blackjack"; to being read the tresspass act; all the way up to false arrest, and even physical beatings. All of these things STILL go on. (Although thanks to R.N. and a few other of the rare attorneys who are not in the back pocket of the casinos, the false arrests and beatings are starting to occur much more infrequently than they used to)
 

Jack_Black

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#7
Sucker said:
(although most casinos would probably not ban a murderer, as long as he didn't kill one of their paying customers).
I got pick pocketed by a scumbag in a casino once. Then I saw the scum in the same casino a few months later. I got him arrested, and the money was returned to me. but a few months after that, I saw the same scumbag in the same casino playing like nothing happened.

There is scum in front of, and behind the tables at all times. beware.
 

21forme

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#8
Jack_Black said:
I got pick pocketed by a scumbag in a casino once. Then I saw the scum in the same casino a few months later. I got him arrested, and the money was returned to me.
How did you prove anything months later?
 

Machinist

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#9
Does leaving 10 large in a safedeposit box qualify? I know i had x amount of cash in one that my brother had opened. He goes in to clean it out an comes out and say hey this is all that is in there.... I"m like really???? Huh.....oh well ...i guess my book keeping was off....whatever...
Life goes on for another 6 weeks and have to make a deposit into the box. Bro goes in and comes out with a big smile on his face...... I'm like what????? Uh i found your ten grand he says.....:laugh::laugh: WTF!!!! Yea it was all the way in the back of the box!!!!!
We still have a good laugh over that one... Nice to have had a partner, especially a brother that can be trusted....
Sick!!!!!!!

Machinist

HEy!!! wrong friggin thread!!!!!!!! should be under the bankroll left unattended thread!!! oh well!!
 
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Jack_Black

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#10
21forme said:
How did you prove anything months later?
eh? it was all caught on tape. happened at a BJ table. alerted security, called the police and made an initial theft report. when I ran into him a few months later, at the same place I made another call to the police. when I saw him a few months after that, the casino said there is nothing they can do. Hell, he didn't rob the casino, why should they care? Me, on the other hand.......
 

Sharky

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#11
best cover, is no cover. play short sessions with ridiculously high spreads.

if you get barred, go back in disguise - my favorite is my "butt wheet" fro, and i am chinese! :laugh::whip:
 
#12
I've been playing at the same casino in Tunica about twice a month for 3 months.

I use the players card every time I play and I've been comped rooms and food.

Will they eventually notice that I have won at least $500 ever day I've stayed there and stop being nice to me?
 

21forme

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#13
phantom said:
Will they eventually notice that I have won at least $500 ever day I've stayed there and stop being nice to me?
Most likely, yes. Several years ago, I won 50K at Borgata in about 3 months. I believe the overall win is what got me noticed.
 

Brock Windsor

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#14
phantom said:
I've been playing at the same casino in Tunica about twice a month for 3 months.

I use the players card every time I play and I've been comped rooms and food.

Will they eventually notice that I have won at least $500 ever day I've stayed there and stop being nice to me?
$500 twice a month? I think they would be a long time catching on to that unless they have a sharp pit. You'll hit some negative variance soon enough, don't worry.
BW
p.s. For the OP. I have been banned but not charged or beaten... yet.
 
#15
Brock Windsor said:
$500 twice a month? I think they would be a long time catching on to that unless they have a sharp pit. You'll hit some negative variance soon enough, don't worry.
BW
p.s. For the OP. I have been banned but not charged or beaten... yet.
I said I visit twice a month and win at least $500 a day. Sometimes I stay 2 or 3 days a visit.
 

Brock Windsor

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#16
That's a bit different then. If your expectation is $500 a day you should probably stop using your card. If you just happen to be averaging $500 a day but expectation is much less then you are likely ok for now.
-BW
 

BJgenius007

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#17
Red chip and green chip shouldn't worry.

21forme said:
Most likely, yes. Several years ago, I won 50K at Borgata in about 3 months. I believe the overall win is what got me noticed.
Maybe black chip players, either.

I recall a lawsuit in 90's. One BJ player sued Tunica for banning him from playing BJ any more. He said he lost about half million at the BJ table, but the last 2 trips, he won $85,000 then $120,000 so Tunica told him he can no longer play BJ there. He thinks it is unfair since he haven't recouped half of his loss yet.

Each casino has a stop loss limit. For bigger casino, it is probably $150,000 or $250,000. If your winning is far away from this level, you really shouldn't lose on purpose and should try to win every hand. Just don't play long sessions. And play at different time period if you have to go to the same casino. If you look like a casual player and play with red and green chips, you will be fine.
 

bigplayer

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#18
phantom said:
I was told that they don't do this anymore.

Have any of you been banned?
Unfortunately, yes casinos still ban players. I was actually kicked out of my hotel room by a casino this year in a major tourist destination.
 

tensplitter

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#19
bigplayer said:
Unfortunately, yes casinos still ban players. I was actually kicked out of my hotel room by a casino this year in a major tourist destination.
That's why you don't play where you stay if you play at black chips or above. That goes for sister properties. If you're staying at a Harrah's property play at MGM and vice versa. They'll still record action and comp based on that.
 
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