High OptII for playing with RPC for Betting ?

somtum

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Today I was trying to see if I could keep 2 seperate counts.

Using HighOptII for PE and using a second count for BC that only changes when aces 3's and 6's are dealt. Adding the 2 counts together becomes the RPC.

Has anyone ever tried anything like else?
 
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jack.jackson

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somtum said:
Today I was trying to see if I could keep 2 seperate counts.

Using HighOptII for PE and using a second count for BC that only changes when aces 3's and 6's are dealt. Adding the 2 counts together becomes the RPC.

Has anyone ever tried anything like else?
Use the ho2, betting strategy, for both(added) counts. You can also use, the RPC indices, for certain hands, such as splitting XXs. These act like ace params, but since RPC already reckons the ace, use the RPC indices, when you add the two counts together. In general you will use ho2 for stiffs and the RPC, for most other hands.

I use a secondary of A/3/5 w/ao2, to create wong halves. Unfortunately, unlike yours, my fives have two different values, so its slightly tougher than your secondary. Meaning you count the 3and6 for +1 in both counts.
 
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QFIT

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somtum said:
Today I was trying to see if I could keep 2 seperate counts.

Using HighOptII for PE and using a second count for BC that only changes when aces 3's and 6's are dealt. Adding the 2 counts together becomes the RPC.

Has anyone ever tried anything like else?
I simmed this exact situation once years back. The results were indeed impressive. But, I'd never actually try it. in a casino.
 

jack.jackson

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#6
QFIT said:
I simmed this exact situation once years back. The results were indeed impressive. But, I'd never actually try it. in a casino.
You should try this one sometime Q.

3-6+1 vs X-1

.877
.609
.85

Secondary:
A-1/2+1

.97

Sidecount7's:

.984(.5)
.70+(multi-params)
.863(1)

The secondary count can also be used for paticular hands to further enhance pe. Primarily for splits and doubling 7-10.

(-111111(1)00-1)
 
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somtum

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I just found out that HighOptII side counts the 8's & 9's... hmm.. this is tough keeping a secondary count as well..
 
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jack.jackson

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somtum said:
I just found out that HighOptII side counts the 8's & 9's... hmm.. this is tough keeping a secondary count as well..
Just SC 8's and A's, for pitch games, and keep a secondary for the shoe games.
 
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somtum

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jack said:
Use the ho2, betting strategy, for both(added) counts. You can also use, the RPC indices, for certain hands, such as splitting XXs. These act like ace params, but since RPC already reckons the ace, use the RPC indices, when you add the two counts together. In general you will use ho2 for stiffs and the RPC, for most other hands.

I use a secondary of A/3/5 w/ao2, to create wong halves. Unfortunately, unlike yours, my fives have two different values, so its slightly tougher than your secondary. Meaning you count the 3and6 for +1 in both counts.
Using the most common rules with S17/H17 and pitch/shoe games ..what kind of EV does the AoII and wong halves combined equate too ?
 
#11
Overreach

Have you counted cards and placed a bet in a casino?
One count, any of the major ones is quite sufficient.:joker::whip:
The mental torment you are considering is not necessary.
The error rate will probably be so high that you will be worse off then if you used one count.
 

jack.jackson

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somtum said:
Using the most common rules with S17/H17 and pitch/shoe games ..what kind of EV does the AoII and wong halves combined equate too ?
I never figured out how to sim this or if its, even possible w/cv. Any suggestions?
 
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