how much do you guys win?
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here's my graph so far of bankroll growth vs sessions.
note: i haven't played much after the big drop lol.
it was where i upsized my bet spread. (take note bjavenger! lol )
i've been like a deer in headlights ever since the drop.
oh and it's not representative of total orthodox card counting play.
upon retrospective examination of just what it was i really did over all those sessions i came to realize i screwed around quite a bit more than i realized.like steaming or like for instance there's even a little slot machine blackjack game play in there. lol
live and learn lol. really a hodge podge of so much differant stuff i've done. begining learning to count. various count methods of ace/ten front count, ko, hi/lo and fuzzy counting. various games, lsr, no lsr, eight decks, six decks and finally a two deck. playing just one hand or maybe spreading to two, various penetration levels, wonging in or maybe wonging out and maybe play all. various bet spreads and playing to various simulators and simulations. having stop win limits, having goals. just playing BS. all sorts of stuff that makes it virtually impossible to understand really what went on.
it's not representative of really a lot of money just bankroll growth.
note: i haven't played much after the big drop lol.
it was where i upsized my bet spread. (take note bjavenger! lol )
i've been like a deer in headlights ever since the drop.
oh and it's not representative of total orthodox card counting play.
upon retrospective examination of just what it was i really did over all those sessions i came to realize i screwed around quite a bit more than i realized.like steaming or like for instance there's even a little slot machine blackjack game play in there. lol
live and learn lol. really a hodge podge of so much differant stuff i've done. begining learning to count. various count methods of ace/ten front count, ko, hi/lo and fuzzy counting. various games, lsr, no lsr, eight decks, six decks and finally a two deck. playing just one hand or maybe spreading to two, various penetration levels, wonging in or maybe wonging out and maybe play all. various bet spreads and playing to various simulators and simulations. having stop win limits, having goals. just playing BS. all sorts of stuff that makes it virtually impossible to understand really what went on.
it's not representative of really a lot of money just bankroll growth.
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Hey, Don't Blame Me LOL
When you say "upsized your bet spread", what did you do exactly? If you doubled your bets then yeah your variance dare I say doubles:eyepatch::whip:
Did you scale your bets back to the original level or are you still "upsized"?
To someone who wants to "upsize their bets" I would recommend doing it gradually.
Ex.
going from .5 kelly to .6 kelly
or
just having the same ror but a larger bank will entail larger bets (10% ror with $10,000 to $20,000 is the same ror but would entail larger bets for the larger bankroll.
or
If one resizes then just hold off on resizing downwards, if you take a mild negative swing you would be playing at the same basic stakes.
Under all examples you are increasing your stakes gradually so initial negative variance does not make any froggie jumpy.
I would be hesitant to recommend someone just double their stakes overnight even if they mainatain a low ror. There is something to be said for consistency over time when considering the long run of bj.
When you say "upsized your bet spread", what did you do exactly? If you doubled your bets then yeah your variance dare I say doubles:eyepatch::whip:
Did you scale your bets back to the original level or are you still "upsized"?
To someone who wants to "upsize their bets" I would recommend doing it gradually.
Ex.
going from .5 kelly to .6 kelly
or
just having the same ror but a larger bank will entail larger bets (10% ror with $10,000 to $20,000 is the same ror but would entail larger bets for the larger bankroll.
or
If one resizes then just hold off on resizing downwards, if you take a mild negative swing you would be playing at the same basic stakes.
Under all examples you are increasing your stakes gradually so initial negative variance does not make any froggie jumpy.
I would be hesitant to recommend someone just double their stakes overnight even if they mainatain a low ror. There is something to be said for consistency over time when considering the long run of bj.
CowCantFly said:
how much did you guys win in a week and about how often you play blackjack in a week?? tell me more about your winning here 
I believe that my results (+0.02 units/hand) are atypically high - based on some simulations, I should only be winning 0.01 units/hand, and I usually give up about half of that in tips, so my EV should be 0.005. I think Sonny calculated that I would need to play 90,000 hands (~100 years at the rate I'm playing) before I could be sure I was playing with an advantage. :grin:
i went from a 1to8 spread to a 1to10. right where you see the big dipper lol.
lol avenger you don't wanna know how i bet now.
the bullet chaser'd for sure throw me offa this thread to voodoo or maybe suspend me for three days lmao.
but if i'm doing the orthodox trick i'm back to the 1to8 spread. but if the count was through the roof i'd might go to 10. :whip:
thankyou for the info avenger. i appreciate it.
by the way my lifetime bankroll is now at 6 grand so i a'int got much wiggle room.
lol avenger you don't wanna know how i bet now.
the bullet chaser'd for sure throw me offa this thread to voodoo or maybe suspend me for three days lmao.
but if i'm doing the orthodox trick i'm back to the 1to8 spread. but if the count was through the roof i'd might go to 10. :whip:
thankyou for the info avenger. i appreciate it.
by the way my lifetime bankroll is now at 6 grand so i a'int got much wiggle room.
Save the Frog!
When you upscaled things your bets were basically the same you just bet a little more in the higher TC's? If that is the case then try to stick with it at least until you get back to even. Don't hop away just because you had some initial negative variance.
You know frogs are becoming an endagered species!
If you want bankroll preservation then cut your bets back at some conventient point if your bankroll drops and don't raise your bets on bankroll growth for a while. Also, actually apply some of the knowledge you do have.:joker::whip:
Playing a stronger game can help preserve bankroll:devil:
sagefr0g said:
i went from a 1to8 spread to a 1to10. right where you see the big dipper lol.
lol avenger you don't wanna know how i bet now.
the bullet chaser'd for sure throw me offa this thread to voodoo or maybe suspend me for three days lmao.
but if i'm doing the orthodox trick i'm back to the 1to8 spread. but if the count was through the roof i'd might go to 10. :whip:
thankyou for the info avenger. i appreciate it.
by the way my lifetime bankroll is now at 6 grand so i a'int got much wiggle room.
lol avenger you don't wanna know how i bet now.
the bullet chaser'd for sure throw me offa this thread to voodoo or maybe suspend me for three days lmao.
but if i'm doing the orthodox trick i'm back to the 1to8 spread. but if the count was through the roof i'd might go to 10. :whip:
thankyou for the info avenger. i appreciate it.
by the way my lifetime bankroll is now at 6 grand so i a'int got much wiggle room.
You know frogs are becoming an endagered species!
If you want bankroll preservation then cut your bets back at some conventient point if your bankroll drops and don't raise your bets on bankroll growth for a while. Also, actually apply some of the knowledge you do have.:joker::whip:
Playing a stronger game can help preserve bankroll:devil:
you know that's what i figured. it just scared the hell outa me.
yeah well hopefully thats the whole point of all this. we wanna preserve as many frogs as we can. moi included. :joker:
well thats what i did instead. i hopped away just because of some negative variance. wrong reason i guess. just i can't emotionally handle that big of a swing at once. it's hard to teach an old frog new tricks.
your right. i'd say more but i'd probably get kicked into voodoo. so i'll just leave it at your right, which you are.
naw well ok i'll make a little post over in voodoo and you can toad stomp me over there on it. :laugh:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=92892&postcount=1
yeah well hopefully thats the whole point of all this. we wanna preserve as many frogs as we can. moi included. :joker:
well thats what i did instead. i hopped away just because of some negative variance.
wrong reason i guess. just i can't emotionally handle that big of a swing at once. it's hard to teach an old frog new tricks. your right. i'd say more but i'd probably get kicked into voodoo. so i'll just leave it at your right, which you are.
naw well ok i'll make a little post over in voodoo and you can toad stomp me over there on it. :laugh:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=92892&postcount=1
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