How much money do you make?

#1
To the professionals here who play blackjack. How much money do you make on average in Casinos over a few days? Say what your minimum bet is also, because it varies on how much you bet in the beginning.
 

Nuh-vad-uh

Active Member
#2
With a $5 minimum I make in one weekend...$100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
 
#5
HiLoCount said:
To the professionals here who play blackjack. How much money do you make on average in Casinos over a few days? Say what your minimum bet is also, because it varies on how much you bet in the beginning.

Don't quit your day job. Employment at the local 7/11 and pizza boy pay about the same thing.
 

SPX

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#6
InPlay said:
Don't quit your day job. Employment at the local 7/11 and pizza boy pay about the same thing.

People say that all the time, but surely everyone who says that is playing at the $5 level. Moo's answer--2 units an hour--is a lot more accurate. After all, if you have the bankroll to play with a $100 base bet then that's pretty serious cash.
 

ihate17

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#7
The easy answer and the harder one

HiLoCount said:
To the professionals here who play blackjack. How much money do you make on average in Casinos over a few days? Say what your minimum bet is also, because it varies on how much you bet in the beginning.
Mr Count
I guess you are new to this based upon your question. If you play well and are playing a game with decent rules and pen, then 2 units per hour is the (easy) answer.
What may be hard for the new player to understand is just how those 2 units come to you. The casino is not an ATM machine where you sit an hour and just collect your 2 units. The movie 21 also makes it look easier than it really is. Your sessions or hours or whatever will look a lot more like lose 20 units in one hour and win 24 units the next for a net of 2 per hour.The hard thing is that those losing sessions could be multiple sessions of losses and new players will tend to base too much on very short term results. A true pro still could go through months where he is a net loser even though lifetime he is a big net winner.
All of this makes blackjack income hard to depend upon for one's living expenses and is also why the bankroll needed is so much larger than your minimum bet.

ihate17
 

moo321

Well-Known Member
#8
ihate17 said:
Mr Count
I guess you are new to this based upon your question. If you play well and are playing a game with decent rules and pen, then 2 units per hour is the (easy) answer.
What may be hard for the new player to understand is just how those 2 units come to you. The casino is not an ATM machine where you sit an hour and just collect your 2 units. The movie 21 also makes it look easier than it really is. Your sessions or hours or whatever will look a lot more like lose 20 units in one hour and win 24 units the next for a net of 2 per hour.The hard thing is that those losing sessions could be multiple sessions of losses and new players will tend to base too much on very short term results. A true pro still could go through months where he is a net loser even though lifetime he is a big net winner.
All of this makes blackjack income hard to depend upon for one's living expenses and is also why the bankroll needed is so much larger than your minimum bet.

ihate17
Just like any business. There's good times, and bad times, and you need to learn proper financial management.
 

callipygian

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#9
SPX said:
People say that all the time, but surely everyone who says that is playing at the $5 level. Moo's answer--2 units an hour--is a lot more accurate. After all, if you have the bankroll to play with a $100 base bet then that's pretty serious cash.
Are there seriously enough casinos that can tolerate black chip action for extended periods of time that this can be made into a career?

At 2 units/hr, you'd need to play 100 hours a year of $100 blackjack to eek out a poverty-level living, 200 hours a year for a decent living. I don't see how this wouldn't be picked up by the casinos, especially since so many of them are owned by the same companies (even the Indian casinos).
 

jack.jackson

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#10
callipygian said:
Are there seriously enough casinos that can tolerate black chip action for extended periods of time that this can be made into a career?

At 2 units/hr, you'd need to play 100 hours a year of $100 blackjack to eek out a poverty-level living, 200 hours a year for a decent living. I don't see how this wouldn't be picked up by the casinos, especially since so many of them are owned by the same companies (even the Indian casinos).
100$ per unit.
 

moo321

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#11
callipygian said:
Are there seriously enough casinos that can tolerate black chip action for extended periods of time that this can be made into a career?

At 2 units/hr, you'd need to play 100 hours a year of $100 blackjack to eek out a poverty-level living, 200 hours a year for a decent living. I don't see how this wouldn't be picked up by the casinos, especially since so many of them are owned by the same companies (even the Indian casinos).
You could easily be a full time black chipper in Vegas, and probably AC. Just play short sessions, not much on any shift, and NEVER get caught.
 
#12
Now what happens if I play with a team? Say I play at the table and let the other two guys know the count it high. They come up and place a very high bet.
 
#13
HiLoCount said:
Now what happens if I play with a team? Say I play at the table and let the other two guys know the count it high. They come up and place a very high bet.

then it looks like their high roller rich guys who are there to just have a good time and get lucky

casinos would like them until they caught one

casino view at new bp sitting down:
big players = big bets = more money for the house
bp wins = he got lucky we will get him later

truth:
big players = big bets at appropriate times = more money for the player
bp wins = :) casino = :confused:

im a math major
 

Unshake

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#14
HiLoCount said:
Now what happens if I play with a team? Say I play at the table and let the other two guys know the count it high. They come up and place a very high bet.
You mean what happens if you saw the movie 21?

You'll make more money each playing individually wonging in than you will having a big player come in unless you have a pretty large bankroll.
 

beat320

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#15
HiLoCount said:
Now what happens if I play with a team? Say I play at the table and let the other two guys know the count it high. They come up and place a very high bet.
To be completely honest, Kevin Spacey will probably steal all of your winnings and you will get to nail Kate Bosworth



I don't know if anyone said this yet but you would need a HUGE bankroll in order to do this on any regular basis with any decent amount of money.
 

moo321

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#16
beat320 said:
To be completely honest, Kevin Spacey will probably steal all of your winnings and you will get to nail Kate Bosworth



I don't know if anyone said this yet but you would need a HUGE bankroll in order to do this on any regular basis with any decent amount of money.
You can probably run a big player team with around $30k. A decent bankroll, yes, but not HUGE.
 

EasyRhino

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#17
If you needed big player to support the "big bets" of a $30k bankroll, I would suggest going to places that tolerate bigger action.
 

Harman

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#20
Nuh-vad-uh said:
With a $5 minimum I make in one weekend...$100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Do you use Hi Lo ?? :grin:
 
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