I meant to split those fives!

[Sharky]

agreed, that is casino cheating but, no, not an indian joint..amazed the cat at 3rd didn't put up a stink sitting w/ a stiff instead of 20...some are way more easygoing than me.

 

[Sucker]

There is no such thing as "standard" blackjack rules. Every casino has the right to set its' own "house rules". Just because one place might allow players to back out of a hand does not necessarily mean that ALL houses are going to do it the same way. I've seen it handled this way several times before - in the case of a misdeal, the affected hand is the only one declared dead, and the other hands are forced to play on.

Before you can assume that the house "cheated", you have to find out what the rule actually IS for that particular house.

 

[dacium]

stood on a 10 to avoid taking the "bust card",

In all my years playing, I am glad to say that I have never seen someone that bad. I have seen people sit on soft 12, but never on 11 or below.

 

[dacium]

So I am sitting w/ a single card 8, 3rd base has a 13 (my double card) and the dealer is sitting w/ 20. YIKES...I, obviously, get to take my bet back, which i do, but they don't give anyone else at the table that option...felt for 3rd w/ the stiff who should've had the 20...bust and loses.

These situations are always very interesting to me. In Australia the exact rules of how blackjack has to be played in casinos is written into the law in most states, and i have had to stand up and make quite a big fuss over miss deals. If the sequence of cards cannot be maintained, all players have the right to pull out or continue.

The most common problem is when a card comes out of a CSM face up. The casino always burns the card and tries to get everyone to continue as if nothing has happened. I always pull my bet back and claim a miss deal (unless i have a good hand). It always ends up going 'upstairs' who have sided with me every time and i have never had any problems. It can pay to read the laws or rules for the finer points of missdealers.

In one state when a card is miss dealt it must remain in play. Once time the dealer had a 10 up and i was last to act, the dealer accidentally drew and showed a 10 to the first player who had motioned for stand. The card remained in play. All the players were on stiff hands under 20, and they all rejected it. I was in the last box naturally, so I found myself in the rediculous situation of literally being able to take the card and bust (i was on 13), or let the dealer beat everyone. I was angry at what had happened but I thought it was stupid not to hit and get the whole table angry at me, so I hit anyway. The dealer drew an 8 and one guy won and another pushed, the reset still lost...

 

[Mr. T]

Why do you want to be a dead hero.
Sometimes knowing too much can be a disadvantage. I mean that about the card being in play and not burned.
If I were you I would just refuse to play. Just tell the casino you actually want a card but not that exposed 10. I would just refuse to give any hand signal. If you drew the next card incidentally you would have got 21.
I think rules or no rules what can the casino do. And the time is being wasted by the casino.
If the dealer just take the 10 then a compaint would be lodged with the gaming commission. And everybody at the table will be pissed off and complain like mad. I don't think the casino would want that.
What can the casino do to you apart from taking your bet. I don't think they can ban you from the casino for this misplay.

 

[beating vegas]

A ploppy sitting at 3rd base got dealt a pair of fives against dealer 6 and placed a bet equal to his original wager. The dealer thought he was doubling down and his double down card was a deuce. He then said that he meant to split those fives. The pit boss OKed it, and burned the deuce. The next 2 cards were a jack and a queen so he had 2 15s. The dealer's hole card was an eight and then the dealer drew a 6 for a 20. Everyone at the table gave him a dirty look for splitting his fives. If he simply let his double down stand, the whole table would have won when the dealer busted.

That ploppy went broke shortly thereafter and never returned to my table.

a ploppy can help the table or hurt the table . if he would have saved the table nobody would have said a thing .i think we all agree we have seen people make stupid plays .i had a lady who didnt know how to play bj and she hit a 18 vs a dealers 16 when i asked her what she was doing she told me shewas trying to get to 21 .