If a game is double only 9-11, can you double on soft 18/19?

dacium

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#1
What is the standard?

A game I play says double only on 9-11 but I forgot to ask if you can double on soft 18/19 and have the ace count as a 1 no matter what card you get.

I am guessing that you can't.

EDIT: Oops i mean soft 19/20 obviosuly.
 

Mikeaber

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#3
zengrifter said:
Typically, YES, you can. zg
In the Indian Casinos I play (northern Kansas), the double deck game allows doubling ONLY on 8,9,10,11 with NO doubles on any soft hands. Rules vary, maybe this is an exception.
 

ScottH

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#4
dacium said:
What is the standard?

A game I play says double only on 9-11 but I forgot to ask if you can double on soft 18/19 and have the ace count as a 1 no matter what card you get.

I am guessing that you can't.

EDIT: Oops i mean soft 19/20 obviosuly.
I play a game that allows double on 10 and 11 only. I asked if you could double A9 and I got some confused looks from everyone. I can't do it yet since I am waiting for a list of high-plus count indexes for KO. Like doubling A9, splitting tens, etc. Maybe I should learn how to sim them...
 

gobbledygeek

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#5
Have you tried doubling down on soft totals to see if some dealers don't know their own house rules? Couldn't hurt to try it every once and a while?

I read the printed rules for the casino I play at and it clearly states that you can surrender any hand except against a dealer 10 or A. But as it turns out, the rules were misleading; you're actually more than welcome to surrender against a 10 or A but of course if the dealer gets a blackjack you lose your whole bet. Couple this with the so-called wise advice from the last dealer I played against ("You know, you should never surrender - it's only to the house's advantage, why do you think they have that rule?". Um, ok.) and half the time I don't think they know what they're own rules are. :D
 

ScottH

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#6
gobbledygeek said:
Have you tried doubling down on soft totals to see if some dealers don't know their own house rules? Couldn't hurt to try it every once and a while?

I read the printed rules for the casino I play at and it clearly states that you can surrender any hand except against a dealer 10 or A. But as it turns out, the rules were misleading; you're actually more than welcome to surrender against a 10 or A but of course if the dealer gets a blackjack you lose your whole bet. Couple this with the so-called wise advice from the last dealer I played against ("You know, you should never surrender - it's only to the house's advantage, why do you think they have that rule?". Um, ok.) and half the time I don't think they know what they're own rules are. :D
It is worth a try. In the Double 10 and 11 only game I play there have been several occasions where dealers accidentally let players double on other totals. If you dont like your double card you can then tell them you dont want it because they shouldn't have let you double! The worse that can happen is they tell you that you cant double.

Another good idea related to this. If you have 55 and intend to double, dont say anything and just place your extra bet. Some dealers forget to ask if you want to double or split. They just assume you're doubling and give you a card. Once you get your card you can use it for a double, or argue that you wanted to split if you get a bad double card.
 
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