if someone else is tipping big, should I not tip?

shadroch

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#21
The original poster says he is afraid putting out small tokes will make him look cheap when compared to the larger tips another player is giving. If small tokes make you look cheap, what does no tip make you look like?
 
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#22
haha. true, i could care less tho if the dealer or anyone else thinks im cheap. if somebody else is tippin the dealer im all for it but I cant see doing it. although puttin your dealers tip on the wager marker everyonce in a while is a pretty neat idea..
 

assume_R

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#23
nunchakyo said:
They have the advantage most of the time anyway, and rake in tons of cash so I dont believe in giving them anymore than i have to, and that goes for the "lowly" dealers.

Tipping the waitresses and waiters and bartenders is differant, but i cant see tippin the dealers.
I don't entirely agree here. Restaurant owners make lots of profit off of your meals, yet you still (presumably) tip the waiters. When a casino makes money, they don't usually give some of that money to the dealers as bonuses. I'm curious what in your mind the ideological difference is between dealers and bartenders? I'm not saying I always tip, but just to say that you don't tip the dealers because the casino executives make money isn't really a sound argument.
 

rrwoods

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#24
nunchakyo said:
As far as tipping is concerned, I don't believe in tipping the dealers. The casino doesn't tip you if you lose, so why bother tipping them when you win. They have the advantage most of the time anyway, and rake in tons of cash so I dont believe in giving them anymore than i have to, and that goes for the "lowly" dealers. I mean there the only ones at the table guranteed to make money since there on the clock and working for the man, and when i'm at the casino im tryin to bring the man down. ha. Tipping the waitresses and waiters and bartenders is differant, but i cant see tippin the dealers.
Irrelevant; the casino isn't getting that money. The dealers are.
 

Guynoire

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#25
Remember never to tip the dealers, only bribe them under certain circumstances. If someone else is tipping your bribe will be less effective so don't do it.
 
#26
assume_R said:
I don't entirely agree here. Restaurant owners make lots of profit off of your meals, yet you still (presumably) tip the waiters. When a casino makes money, they don't usually give some of that money to the dealers as bonuses. I'm curious what in your mind the ideological difference is between dealers and bartenders? I'm not saying I always tip, but just to say that you don't tip the dealers because the casino executives make money isn't really a sound argument.[/QUO TE]

Very True, when you look at it that way my arguement is kinda kaput, but i still stand by it. A while back ago my uncle was playin at the blackjack and hold em tables and was up $800 bucks, now i dont know if he can count or not but i do know he knows how to play right, and he said that at the blackjack table they took out the dealer and replaced him with a relief dealer but shortly afterwards management came up to him and told him he was getting too drunk and rowdy and was gonna have to quit playin. Now i know they have the right to kick you out based on whatever they want, and yes my uncle is a drinker, but as far from rowdy as you can get, a "gentle giant happy go lucky drunk" are the words to explain him. (and yes my uncle is a tipper, he always leaves a nice tip when were leavin a resturant, and ive watched him tip bartenders and such so id bet he would tip a dealer a few times, but ive never played with him so im not certain) now who knows for sure if the dealer had a part in getting him kicked out, but i believe so, so im not gonna be tippin the guy who has a hand in getting me kicked out of a winning game. yes he was just probably doing his job, but its still him against the player, thats how i justify not tippin the dealers.
 

shadroch

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#27
nunchayko,
For someone who has played BJ in a casino exactly once, you certainly have a great many opinions.
Did you come here to impress us with your wisdom or to learn? If its the latter, perhaps you should try listening and learning.
 
#28
your right, i did only play once (3 times now) and im here to learn and this site looks like its full of useful information. im not trying to force my opinions down anyones throat, i was just replying to the post with my point of view, i know saying that i dont believe in tippin the dealers makes me come off as lookin like a jerk, but other than that i try to play and present myself as proper and respectful to the other players and employees (including dealers) the best i can. (the only thing i think I've done to upset the other players was to sit down at the last seat of a table right before the dealer and play for a few hands, till like 5th or 6th hand when everyone on at the table was up to 17 or higher, one guy even doubled down and got 20, and i had A7 and took a hit with the dealers 10 showin and got a king, the dealer then flipped his other card over which was a 6 took a hit and got a freakin 5 to beat everyone, which if i woulda just stood on my A7 he woulda got the king and been busted, i got up and left a few hands after that cuz nobody seemed to friendly after that happend.) but the story of my uncle is just one of my reasons behind not getting too friendly with or tippin the dealers. If other people wanna tip the dealers thats thier decision and it doesnt make a differance to me (unless they place there tip on my tip marker, thats just being rude and tryin to look like a showoff in my book.)
 

aslan

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#29
Guynoire said:
Remember never to tip the dealers, only bribe them under certain circumstances. If someone else is tipping your bribe will be less effective so don't do it.
You're not a wee bit cynical, are you?:p :whip:
 

tfg

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#30
I usually tip the main dealer that I have when I'm at a table for a while. I know that they all get split up anyway but I like the dealer to know that I was least helping out. They do get paid fairly low. Normally I'll play a couple tokes here and there for them so that at least they're getting something if the bet wins. I normally never just give them $5 or $10 at the end of my session and the people that tip every time they starting winning and before you know it they've tipped like $25 or $30 or something are crazy. I can understand the low wages of the dealers up to a point but I'm there to make money as well.

If there are dealers that do something out of the ordinary then that changes things a bit. There's been a few times and one in particular, where I've had a bigger bet out, had to split and/or double down and lost and the dealer didn't take the bet. I don't know if it was on purpose or a legitimate mistake but in any case, that is like a huge swing that they saved me. On a $30 or $40 bet, that could be a $120 or $160 swing.
 
#31
i posted this somewhere else but just to remake my point.

I am a dealer and it is okay to be cheap and tip just a little trust me alittle is better then nothing. If the dealer does not seem appricative then do not tip that dealer agian, that is why splitting tips sucks. We keep our own tips where i work.

tips is gratuity for good service, do u tip food servers, bell hops, vallet?

MOST IMPORTANT if u are a counter, and dont tip i will put the heat on and notify the floorman of my suspicions, cuz most dealers cant do this but I can keep a running count while i deal and I do it about 70-80% of the time, mostly for practice.
If you loose I understand but if u are counter and i dump to u (dealer term for giving out lots of money) I will notify my floorman that u are counting if you are a stanly (dealer term for person who does not tip). so be a cheap smuck if u want but good luck if u come to my table. If u get banned from my casino a memo with your pic and info will be sent to other casinos.

Advice on how to tip. Put the tip on top of your bet and if you win give it to the dealer or then bet it for the dealer. ex u bet 5 dollars and want to tip the dealer put 1 dollar on top of your five if you win give the winning dollar to the dealer and keep your dollar, maybee if the dealer is nice use that same dollar to tip the dealer again. that simple if you loose well u lost 6 instead of 5 you will be alright.

one more note even if you wong i will catch on trust me i also use that method, not verry hard to catch on to when u know what to look for.
If u are a decent person and treat me fairlly no worries, but i will not cheat for u and i will stop tipping a dealer if i think they are purpossley cheating for me, u do not want the casino to cheat u.

and to thoose that posted about dealers not being able to get a decent job dealling is decent job, most casinos require u go to school and be certified first, second off I got 3 degrees 2 AA and 1 ba, served in the US Army and Navy, so i could have other options but i like dealing cus i like gambling, so do not knock any one who does an honest days of work.
we make minum wage but tips pay are bills.
 

paddywhack

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#32
young gutter said:
second off I got 3 degrees 2 AA and 1 ba, served in the US Army and Navy, so i could have other options but i like dealing cus i like gambling, so do not knock any one who does an honest days of work.
we make minum wage but tips pay are bills.
Obviously none of those degrees involved learning to spell or use grammatically correct sentences. :laugh::laugh:
 

21gunsalute

Well-Known Member
#33
young gutter said:
i posted this somewhere else but just to remake my point.

I am a dealer and it is okay to be cheap and tip just a little trust me alittle is better then nothing. If the dealer does not seem appricative then do not tip that dealer agian, that is why splitting tips sucks. We keep our own tips where i work.

tips is gratuity for good service, do u tip food servers, bell hops, vallet?

MOST IMPORTANT if u are a counter, and dont tip i will put the heat on and notify the floorman of my suspicions, cuz most dealers cant do this but I can keep a running count while i deal and I do it about 70-80% of the time, mostly for practice.
If you loose I understand but if u are counter and i dump to u (dealer term for giving out lots of money) I will notify my floorman that u are counting if you are a stanly (dealer term for person who does not tip). so be a cheap smuck if u want but good luck if u come to my table. If u get banned from my casino a memo with your pic and info will be sent to other casinos.

Advice on how to tip. Put the tip on top of your bet and if you win give it to the dealer or then bet it for the dealer. ex u bet 5 dollars and want to tip the dealer put 1 dollar on top of your five if you win give the winning dollar to the dealer and keep your dollar, maybee if the dealer is nice use that same dollar to tip the dealer again. that simple if you loose well u lost 6 instead of 5 you will be alright.

one more note even if you wong i will catch on trust me i also use that method, not verry hard to catch on to when u know what to look for.
If u are a decent person and treat me fairlly no worries, but i will not cheat for u and i will stop tipping a dealer if i think they are purpossley cheating for me, u do not want the casino to cheat u.

and to thoose that posted about dealers not being able to get a decent job dealling is decent job, most casinos require u go to school and be certified first, second off I got 3 degrees 2 AA and 1 ba, served in the US Army and Navy, so i could have other options but i like dealing cus i like gambling, so do not knock any one who does an honest days of work.
we make minum wage but tips pay are bills.
That's not tipping...it's out and out extortion!
 

prankster

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#36
So,I have a BS degree-and I also have a Bachelor of Science degree.The former I need and use all day,every day-the latter,don't need, never use!:rolleyes:
 

21gunsalute

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#38
young gutter said:
and to thoose that posted about dealers not being able to get a decent job dealling is decent job, most casinos require u go to school and be certified first, second off I got 3 degrees 2 AA and 1 ba, served in the US Army and Navy, so i could have other options but i like dealing cus i like gambling, so do not knock any one who does an honest days of work.
we make minum wage but tips pay are bills.
I believe those degrees came from Grammar R Us.
 

aslan

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#39
BS is an art, so maybe we can count that as a BA. :grin: I have a BSBA, which I guess captures the best of both worlds. :rolleyes: I almost flunked my final accounting exam when they asked me to spell CPA. :eek: Them thar trick questions ur sumtimes tha harrdist.
 
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