Index for 7,7
- Thread starter Stretch
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I see! No you wouldnt! I would think it would be safe to always hit this on a MinBet. But if you dont get paid xtra for bigger bets, then your risking higher$ for a measley 5$. But to risk a minbet for a 5$ bonus would be worth it at practically any count.
But the amount of $ your riskin to win 5$ would definitely be a factor.
I guess this could get pretty confusing, then.
Need a math expert.
Severals factors now play a role.
How much you bet?
Higher payouts, for higher bets?
Suited 777?
Automatic winner?
What the count is?
I think wizard of odds, might have something on this. Sorry I just dont know.
Maybe sonny,cal or kc can help? Im curious too.
But the amount of $ your riskin to win 5$ would definitely be a factor.
I guess this could get pretty confusing, then.
Need a math expert.
Severals factors now play a role.
How much you bet?
Higher payouts, for higher bets?
Suited 777?
Automatic winner?
What the count is?
I think wizard of odds, might have something on this. Sorry I just dont know.
Maybe sonny,cal or kc can help? Im curious too.
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The HiLo system doesn’t count sevens so any index number would be a pretty weak approximation unless you use a side count. Just stick to BS for the 7,7 vs. 10 play. As for as the side bet, just ignore it. The gain from the bonus doesn’t overcome the penalty for breaking BS. With a big bet out you will want to stand anyway because the count is high.
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Thanks, but..
my orignal question was: what is the index when I would hit 7,7 vs 10 in a single deck? I know to stand in neutral / postive counts (bigger bet always when positive), but at what negative count SHOULD I start hitting?
Mimo- no other bonus parameters, just 777 pays an extra $5. Suited 777 doesn't apply to single deck.
Stretch
my orignal question was: what is the index when I would hit 7,7 vs 10 in a single deck? I know to stand in neutral / postive counts (bigger bet always when positive), but at what negative count SHOULD I start hitting?
Mimo- no other bonus parameters, just 777 pays an extra $5. Suited 777 doesn't apply to single deck.
Stretch
A closer look
Being familiar with SD in Reno/ Sparks as well as the typical pen there, I would hit the 7,7 vs. 10 with a hi-lo TC of < -2. In other words at the top of the deck you would need to have a surplus of 2 low cards at or near the beginning of the deck and a surplus of one low card at mid-point. I wouldn't worry myself about the 7,7,7 bonus unless you're sure both 7's remain in the deck and you want to take a flyer on a min. bet for cover.
Being familiar with SD in Reno/ Sparks as well as the typical pen there, I would hit the 7,7 vs. 10 with a hi-lo TC of < -2. In other words at the top of the deck you would need to have a surplus of 2 low cards at or near the beginning of the deck and a surplus of one low card at mid-point. I wouldn't worry myself about the 7,7,7 bonus unless you're sure both 7's remain in the deck and you want to take a flyer on a min. bet for cover.
HiLo count is totally useless for 7,7 vs T.
KO count is so very weak (the 7 is only 15% of the make up of the count) that it's index is of no value.
In single deck, 7,7 vs T is a stand. (when ever over 1/2 the 7s are consumed, you do not hit).
So in a 6 deck shoe, if you knew 10 other sevens were gone (plus the two in your hand), you would stand.
KO count is so very weak (the 7 is only 15% of the make up of the count) that it's index is of no value.
In single deck, 7,7 vs T is a stand. (when ever over 1/2 the 7s are consumed, you do not hit).
So in a 6 deck shoe, if you knew 10 other sevens were gone (plus the two in your hand), you would stand.