Indices

[smithj]

Hello ppl, could you please confirm me these indices? I thought I had them right, however, a friend was not sure about some of them and now I have some doubts...

Edit: HI LO Count

Rules: 6D, S17, DAS, ES10 (surrender against anything except an Ace and only with the 2 first cards)

16vA 3
15vA 5
16v10 0
15v10 4
14v10 3
13v10 7
12v10 11
16v9 4
15v9 2

For 16v10, 15v10, 16v9, I will always surrender (*), except when I have more than 2 cards where I would consider standing based on the indices above.

Currently, for 14v10, I am using 3 for both surrendering or standing (if I have more than 2 cards). Is there another index just for standing?

For the rest, I will always hit or stand based on the indices above.

Do you agree with this?

Thanks in advance for your time.

J.

* I know that there are negative indices for not surrendering but I prefer to stick to BS in these situations

 

[NightStalker]

answers for hi lo

16vA 3 stand is good
15vA 5 no idea for stand,, Late surrendeR: +1 for s17, -1 for h17
16v10 0 stand
15v10 4 stand
14v10 3 Late surrender at +3, stand should be around 9. I normally hit if can't surrender
13v10 7 no idea probably surrender -it's 8
12v10 11 gosh, what is it?
16v9 4 stand at +5, Late surrender at 0
15v9 2 Late surrender at +2

 

[Sonny]

I don't think those surrender numbers are for ES, are they?

-Sonny-

 

[smithj]

16vA 3 stand is good
15vA 5 no idea for stand,, surrendeR: +1 for s17, -1 for h17
16v10 0 stand
15v10 4 stand
14v10 3 surrender, stand should be around 9. I normally hit if can't surrender
13v10 7 no idea probably surrender -it's 8
12v10 11 gosh, what is it
16v9 4 stand at +5, surrender at 0
15v9 2 surrender at +2

...

 

[NightStalker]

You are correct

I don't think those surrender numbers are for ES, are they?

-Sonny-

I din't read his post thoroughly.. They are for LS..

 

[smithj]

I din't read his post thoroughly.. They are for LS..

OK now I am more confused

Using HI LO and the rules are: 6D, S17, DAS, ES10 (surrender against anything except an Ace and only with the 2 first cards)

16vA 3 s
15vA 5 s
16v10 0 s
15v10 4 s
14v10 3 s*, s???
13v10 7 s*
12v10 11 s*
16v9 4 s
15v9 2 s*, s???

s: stand
s*: surrender

...anyone?

 

[smithj]

Nobody plays an ES10 game? :sad:

At least does anybody have an idea on where to find these indices? (of course a reliable source)

Thanks,

J.

 

[Sonny]

The indices for hit/stand/split/doube will be correct either way (although I PMd you some corrections earlier). The only numbers you need are ES against a ten. CVdata has that, but I'm sure there's a book somewhere that has it as well. For the time being just stick with the ES BS moves until you know the indices.

Really? Nobody plays ES10 games here?! Where are all my Canucks?

-Sonny-

 

[blace]

I do play ES10 but unfortunately for you I use zen. I could give you my numbers and dividing them by two you will hopefully get those for hi-lo? Anyway,it wouldn't be 100% correct so you'd better run a simulation in order to get them right.

Blace