Is There a Secret Handshake??

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OhioTR

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Was playing the other night and the guy next to me, whom I've seen play before, DD on a something out of the ordinary (wish i could remember what it was). So I thought right off...hmmm is he a fellow counter. Then I also thought oh crap if he is then my count is way off.

Is there a tackful way to ask or maybe a secret handshake I'm not privy to I can use?? I do know that it wouldn't be proper to be blunt and ask in the store and I dont wanna follow him around all night to wait for him to leave.

How do we, counters, recongnize each other? Or is it telling that I'm not experienced enough to know one when I see one because I'm asking the question in the first place?

I try to watch what people bet to see if they are counting but it seems to me that they are all ploppys. I cringe inside when I seen a someone betting 5 units (of what mine are) with a RC of -9 and half the shoe gone. I know they are a ploppy.
 
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assume_R

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As you develop your game further, you should be able to notice other counters, and their level of play as well - for example, CP recently posted about noticing another counter who wasn't using any index plays.

The more confident you are in your TC numbers, you'll know exactly what others should bet, exactly how they should play each hand and if they are doing it correctly. Also it's slightly dependent on which counting system they use as "not all counts are created equal"!

If they are using heavy cover, however, it might be trickier to notice. And hence, trickier for the eye to notice as well!

Edit: Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the secret handshake! You basically shake hands like if you had a claw, with only your pointer and middle finger! That's how to identify another counter....
 
daddybo

daddybo

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Hard to tell

Players can be playing an AP game that won't look anything like counting and sometimes appear to be the worst ploppies in the world. Except they are usually winning.

Oh, yeah. All registered AP's are required to have the letters "AP" tattooed on the inside upper portion of their left thigh. You have to look closely to see it. ( Advantage Player Code of Conduct - Section 8, Paragraph 4.5) There is no authorized handshake.
 
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assume_R

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daddybo said:
Players can be playing an AP game that won't look anything like counting and sometimes appear to be the worst ploppies in the world. Except they are usually winning.
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Ah, yes, but I only said what I said because the OP asked specifically about noticing other counters...just semantics I suppose.
 
psyduck

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daddybo said:
Oh, yeah. All registered AP's are required to have the letters "AP" tattooed on the inside upper portion of their left thigh. You have to look closely to see it. ( Advantage Player Code of Conduct - Section 8, Paragraph 4.5)
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I finally understand why you and some other posters here seem to know each other so well!
 
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daddybo

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psyduck said:
I finally understand why you and some other posters here seem to know each other so well!
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ROFL.. yeah, its tough to become a "Registered Advantage Player" (RAP).

-Daddybo, MD, ATP, RAP :)
 
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fubster

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Incidentally, all my barrings have come from either showing my inner thigh AP tattoo to others or attempting to locate the AP tattoo on other people in a sneaky way.

For some reason, the courts consider this completely legal form of information gathering "lewd and lascivious conduct." Obviously, I plan on pursuing legal action.
 
creeping panther

creeping panther

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Geez

daddybo said:
Players can be playing an AP game that won't look anything like counting and sometimes appear to be the worst ploppies in the world. Except they are usually winning.

Oh, yeah. All registered AP's are required to have the letters "AP" tattooed on the inside upper portion of their left thigh. You have to look closely to see it. ( Advantage Player Code of Conduct - Section 8, Paragraph 4.5) There is no authorized handshake.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

CP
 
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Bondy3

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Ive noticed a few AP's playing at some of the casinos I visit, There is one guy who THINKS hes an AP and he talks about counting cards AT THE TABLE (talk about awkward... especially when i'm counting correctly and he doesn't know basic strategy)

Most of the Advanced players I have run into do a good job keeping a low profile and don't spread to aggressively. but I could tell they were AP'ers because they never made a basic strategy mistake unless it was an index play (I18) and they were spreading like 1-5 or 1-10. Also I can tell because their insurance correspond with when I take insurance and we only take it when we have large bets out.

I think its really obvias who alot of APers are and im shocked that I havnt been kicked out of a casino for counting
 
itakeyourmoney

itakeyourmoney

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Bondy3 said:
Ive noticed a few AP's playing at some of the casinos I visit, There is one guy who THINKS hes an AP and he talks about counting cards AT THE TABLE (talk about awkward... especially when i'm counting correctly and he doesn't know basic strategy)

Most of the Advanced players I have run into do a good job keeping a low profile and don't spread to aggressively. but I could tell they were AP'ers because they never made a basic strategy mistake unless it was an index play (I18) and they were spreading like 1-5 or 1-10. Also I can tell because their insurance correspond with when I take insurance and we only take it when we have large bets out.

I think its really obvias who alot of APers are and im shocked that I havnt been kicked out of a casino for counting
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Likely it's easier for players to notice other APs than for pit bosses or the Eye in the Sky. As a player you see everything the other players at the table do, while pit bosses--at least at the places I usually go--oversee several tables at a time, and it's the same case with the cameras--since they both have to watch several players it's harder for them to focus in on a single AP unless it's extremely obvious (or if someone is winning big, I'd presume).

I may be wrong about this (I have no formal pit boss or casino surveillance experience), but it seems pretty common sensical to me.
 
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shadroch

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Next time you think you find a card counter, say nothing. Wait until he takes a bathroom break and silently follow him into the mens room. If he is at a urinal,slide up to the very next one and tell him you've been admiring him for awhile and would like to team up.
If he goes into a stall, go into the one next to him and slide a toilet paper note to him.
 
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Dave

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Dopple said:
And if the AP is female then what? Wear one of my disguises?
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Speaking of disguises, do the casino allow costumes in during Halloween? That would be a great time to dust up the beard and moustache.
 
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