Lets talk about results

sukh

New Member
#1
Hello fellow blackjack players, I have been a keen bj player for many years, using various systems, yes making money and losing it... the usual!!

As im sure were all regular players I wanted to know how you all do results wise with whatever strategy, system or whatever you use,

Are there any players actually consistently making money?????
 
#2
sukh said:
Are there any players actually consistently making money?????
Yes, I'm making money consistently playing online blackjack, but you can't say it here because such a statement is considered by most to be impossible and or sacrilegious.

 

SleightOfHand

Well-Known Member
#3
picasso said:
Yes, I'm making money consistently playing online blackjack, but you can't say it here because such a statement is considered by most to be impossible and or sacrilegious.

Thats not true at all. There is quite a lengthy thread about EasyRhino's ventures as an AP, where he started as a online player. It all depends on what you were doing when playing online.

As per the OP, I'm not sure how "consistent" some of us are, but I assure you that there are plenty of players here that have won money playing blackjack (and some other games) over an extended period of time.
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#4
We have an entire forum devoted to beating online casinos. It doesn't involve any special skills or magic betting systems. Many casinos are literally giving money away. All you have to do is take it. Knowing the best way to take advantage of bonuses and promotions will ensure that you are consistently making the most amount of money you can. Playing online is one of the easiest ways to beat a casino. Don't blow your advantage by using some unfounded betting system.

-Sonny-
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
#5
picasso said:
Yes, I'm making money consistently playing online blackjack, but you can't say it here because such a statement is considered by most to be impossible and or sacrilegious.

I don't actually need to hear what junk system you are using - simply reading the post you just made tells me everything i need to know.
If you were using a legitimate system, like bonus whoring where you can achieve mathematically provable profit no-one here would question the validity of your statement.
Instead you are using some form of play that conveniently for you can't be simulated or proven mathematically. No - a simulator can't detect the patterns you are looking for - or perhaps more correctly, no-one here would waste their time simulating your system just to prove to one more person that their betting systems don't work. The truth is that it wouldn't do any good anyway - the educated reader knows they don't work already and you'd just point blank refuse to see the validity of the simulation.
So you will continue on insisting that your system works based on your experience. Even if you have kept accurate enough records to show how much you have profited during your play (which i doubt), you simply haven't played enough hands to have a valid sample size with which to judge the sucess of your system.
How am i doing? Pretty close?
Well anyway - as a couple of people before me have pointed out - online blackjack is very beatable given the right circumstances and to my mind one of the easiest forms of AP. But if anyone plans to try it, do some research, don't just make up some system base entirely on hobbledihoy.

RJT.
 

Sharky

Well-Known Member
#6
RJT said:
...do some research, don't just make up some system base entirely on hobbledihoy.
RJT.
Hobbledehoy: n "An awkward gawky youth"
~Merriam-Webster

I knew I would learn more than just BJ on this site :laugh:
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
#7
Sharky said:
Hobbledehoy: n "An awkward gawky youth"
~Merriam-Webster

I knew I would learn more than just BJ on this site :laugh:
I just can't help myself - i love the word, i've got to use it as often as possible!

"JESUS, more hobbledehoys. YOU CANT LEAVE ALONE WITH THEM! THEYRE ALL OVER THE PLACE LIKE A NEST OF PIGS!!"

Bernard Black

RJT.
 
#8
(...) the educated reader knows they don't work already and you'd just point blank refuse to see the validity of the simulation.
You just proved my point; you can't say here that one beats online BJ by just playing blackjack (less bonus). My system could easily be simulated, but it needs not to be because it is based on very simple but sound mathematics. I'm making money (just lately over one grand net profits; 300$ from bonus, 700$ from actual play) and it keeps going. That for you may be impossible; tuff. I'm just reporting results; you could call me a liar, what do I care. When you hold the truth like some do, the rest is just plain lies or conjectures.
 

sukh

New Member
#9
cheers for your thoughts guys but forget online or land based casinos just about profits.... are you guys out there making money???????? full stop..

everyone of us has our own thoughts on how to play the game, as we are gambling our money, i guess we know best for our own individual game plays, so advice on which system works or not does not interest me as there are hundreds of threads on that and no one is any wiser......

but... whos making the money?? we all cant be losing!! can we???
ARE ANY OF YOU MAKING A LIVING OFF IT?????
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#10
picasso said:
My system could easily be simulated, but it needs not to be because it is based on very simple but sound mathematics.
Would you care to share any of that mathematical basis with us? And wouldn't you still want to simulate it to find out how effective it is? How else would you know your bankroll requirements and the volatility of the system? I don't understand why someone would develop a mathematical system but not test it mathematically. That sounds fishy to me. You keep bragging and making empty claims that you cannot validate. If you aren't willing (able) to support your claims then this is just another fredperson situation. We've been through this before:

picasso: "A progression system will work and win in the long run given the correct playing conditions."

Sonny: "Feel free to update us on your progress and discuss your results, but don’t waste our time with any more claims that are blatantly false."

picasso: "I have no more to say on the matter, I will live and let live."

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?p=159436

I'll tell you the same thing I told him: "There's no reason to repeat the same empty claims over and over. Please do not post again until you are ready so share something legitimate."

-Sonny-
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#11
sukh said:
but... whos making the money?? we all cant be losing!! can we???
There are lots of people making money from online casinos. They can be very easy to beat once you know how. That information is widely available to anyone who wants to learn how to get a legitmate advantage over the casinos.

-Sonny-
 
#12
Please do not post again until you are ready so share something legitimate.
I'm just responding to the initial thread subject: «posting results», but posters are trying to entice me away from the initial matter. Forget the system, results speak for themselves and that is what I'm trying to report here, no more, no less.
 
#13
hey picasso, fair play to your reply..
But I see other members are curious to dissect your system, so why not just state your system, its in no way possible going to affect your winning plays if others no it! so why hold back... Im now keen to see it myself
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
#14
picasso said:
I'm just responding to the initial thread subject: «posting results», but posters are trying to entice me away from the initial matter. Forget the system, results speak for themselves and that is what I'm trying to report here, no more, no less.
As i stated before - results mean sh*t. I withdrew a five figure sum from a casino yesterday and am up a similar amount for the month. Does that prove that my system works? No. The maths proves that the approach i take is valid and therefore a working system.
You've successfully confirmed everything i thought from your first post. Vaguely alluding to mathematical proof, but being unable to provide it. It's typical huckster system peddler pap and worth nothing more than contempt from everyone who has the misfortune to waste a portion of their life reading your garbage.

RJT.
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
#15
sukh said:
cheers for your thoughts guys but forget online or land based casinos just about profits.... are you guys out there making money???????? full stop..

everyone of us has our own thoughts on how to play the game, as we are gambling our money, i guess we know best for our own individual game plays, so advice on which system works or not does not interest me as there are hundreds of threads on that and no one is any wiser......

but... whos making the money?? we all cant be losing!! can we???
ARE ANY OF YOU MAKING A LIVING OFF IT?????
I hold a good full time job, but earn in the region of 3-4x my salary playing online. I don't support myself off of it, but i could if i chose to.

RJT.
 
#16
If

Withdrawing 5 figures means at bare miniumum 10 grand a month, 120 grand a year. If that is 3 to 4 times your day job salary that means you make 30 - 40 grand a year. I think I would quit my day job and just play bj. Unfortunately, I have never won that much either online or at the tables. I have won several thousand in a weekend on a couple of occasions in Vegas and in Biloxi (until a little lady named Katrina came along). I never loose too much because I limit my losses.
 

RJT

Well-Known Member
#17
texasfizz said:
Withdrawing 5 figures means at bare miniumum 10 grand a month, 120 grand a year. If that is 3 to 4 times your day job salary that means you make 30 - 40 grand a year. I think I would quit my day job and just play bj. Unfortunately, I have never won that much either online or at the tables. I have won several thousand in a weekend on a couple of occasions in Vegas and in Biloxi (until a little lady named Katrina came along). I never loose too much because I limit my losses.
I have goals i'm working towards - right now quiting work would only slow that down.

RJT.
 

pogostick

Well-Known Member
#18
I will only believe in betting systems when casinos stop allowing them. For you guys that want to have fun and feel at ease playing BJ , cruise ships are a counters paradise . Pogo
 
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