My niece spots a dealer cheat
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supercoolmancool
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Just like clockwork. You had me worried we lost you for a couple of hours there.
You da man Xfiles!
ihate17
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Cutting the casino some slack, maybe
Somehow we all knew you would reply to this thread.
What I think we have here is a single dealer who is cheating and a casino whose management is poor.
I have been there but not since they removed their pitch game. As someone whose best play is holecarding, I have trained myself and am always aware of dealer's movements. I think I am pretty good at picking up on anything out of the ordinary. I had never seen anything like this there and my neice told me that this was the only dealer she spotted doing this.
So if you look at some of my replies to your earlier thread, this cheat fits in. The casino had no interest in stealing your $500, but it is not impossible to run into a rouge dealer. This is an easy technique to spot, so just keep it in mind.
ihate17
Somehow we all knew you would reply to this thread.
What I think we have here is a single dealer who is cheating and a casino whose management is poor.
I have been there but not since they removed their pitch game. As someone whose best play is holecarding, I have trained myself and am always aware of dealer's movements. I think I am pretty good at picking up on anything out of the ordinary. I had never seen anything like this there and my neice told me that this was the only dealer she spotted doing this.
So if you look at some of my replies to your earlier thread, this cheat fits in. The casino had no interest in stealing your $500, but it is not impossible to run into a rouge dealer. This is an easy technique to spot, so just keep it in mind.
ihate17
I would think if you're going to cheat you should use a harder to spot method like dealing seconds or something.
ihate17
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Need a special cheating prism shoe
Hard to deal seconds from a shoe, but your statement is definately correct. This is very easy to spot and it would be nice to hear that the Chumash caught this and got rid of this dealer but I have a feeling they have no clue as to what he was doing or if they had a clue and did nothing, then we have a bigger problem here.
A while back they hired a guy (think his last name is George) a game security expert to teach their dealers how to deal pitch games. It may be the students were no good or perhaps it was the teacher, but their poor (50% penetration) double deck game was a gold mine for a few visits and then it was gone.
The best way I can describe the Chumash is you have a casino in a very rich area, Santa Barbara County and in the town where Michael Jackson used to have his playground, where Fess Parker (Davey Crockett) is a major landowner. The closest competitor would be about a 5 hour drive and the rules on their games reflect no competition. They are crowded, must make a ton of money and seem to protect their games with their poor rules and poor penetration. In a keep your own tokes situation though, if I ran the place, I would keep an eye on dealers who might be partnering up with a player. Not looking for a dealer cheating a player but that easily could be the next play after cheating for a player.
ihate17
Hard to deal seconds from a shoe, but your statement is definately correct. This is very easy to spot and it would be nice to hear that the Chumash caught this and got rid of this dealer but I have a feeling they have no clue as to what he was doing or if they had a clue and did nothing, then we have a bigger problem here.
A while back they hired a guy (think his last name is George) a game security expert to teach their dealers how to deal pitch games. It may be the students were no good or perhaps it was the teacher, but their poor (50% penetration) double deck game was a gold mine for a few visits and then it was gone.
The best way I can describe the Chumash is you have a casino in a very rich area, Santa Barbara County and in the town where Michael Jackson used to have his playground, where Fess Parker (Davey Crockett) is a major landowner. The closest competitor would be about a 5 hour drive and the rules on their games reflect no competition. They are crowded, must make a ton of money and seem to protect their games with their poor rules and poor penetration. In a keep your own tokes situation though, if I ran the place, I would keep an eye on dealers who might be partnering up with a player. Not looking for a dealer cheating a player but that easily could be the next play after cheating for a player.
ihate17
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Dealing seconds usually requires cards to be pegged or marked, because if the dealer doesn't know what the next card is dealing a second will have no effect. This is very risky business for a busy casino in a popular area; all they would need to do is deal marked cards to some undercover Geraldo Rivera type reporter with a camera crew behind him, and their reputation will be down the toilet for a long time. That's a technique I'd expect to see at some backwoods Nevada locals place, but not a big California store.