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SammyBoy

Well-Known Member
#1
I posted this on another board but got no responses...

A good friend of mine will be in town this week and wants to go to the casino. He is not a counter. Should I tell him that I can count cards and help him, or should I keep quiet and let him play on his own? My wife and another trusted friend are the only people I have discussed my abilities with. He can be trusted to not say a word, but I do worry about him no longer looking like a ploppy if he is asking me for advice or waiting to place his wager only after I place mine. Has anyone else ever been in this situation?
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
#2
My humble opinion.

Since anything can happen in a weekend, even your best advice could murder him at the boards, then you would lose a friend. You can talk about how you play the game, but don't preach. Let him have his experience the way he wants to have it. And if he comes asking for your help, only then, can you lead him to the waters of advantage play.

Friendship is so much more important than a winning weekend.

--Mayor
 

MrPill

Well-Known Member
#4
I would agree with the Mayor, anything can happen in a weekend.

I too have a couple of friends that I sometimes go to the casinos with. I have discussed my "Hobby" with them but have stressed for them to get a solid basic strategy down first. They have on occasion increased their bet as mine went up, but as luck would have it everyone at the table was winning and we both kept getting stiff hand after stiff hand.

I stress to them that anything can happen in the short run, but if you learn a count and practice it, you should end up on top in the "long run". I enjoy my hobby and have losing sessions but I am up for the year.

At least I got them away from the slot machines and now they play a solid game with basic strategy.

Pill
 

ACE

Active Member
#5
I have a group of 6-8 core friends that come with me at one time or another, usually 3 or so per trip. I have only told one that I count, but not the rest of them. They are all strict BS players, which it took me 3 years to get them to do, the last thing I want them to do is act all suspicious or holding up play. The one who knows I count has started to learn HiLo but he agrees with my assessment in not letting the rest of the group in on it.
 

SammyBoy

Well-Known Member
#6
Thanks to all for the advice! That is the great thing about this site, people are not afraid to speak their mind or share their opinion.
 
#7
Trip Report

Over Thanksgiving I went home to mama and grandmas and a great meal. My cousin and I went on a casino day cruise. This was a small boat with a terrible game. Six deck, between one and a half to two decks cut off, S17, das, split aces once, no surrendar, basically crap. Oh and 5-50 min/max or 10-100min/max. We went for sh*ts and grins. I put fifty down and played all three hours. I left with $185 dollars. 10 unit buy in 37 unit buy out. I basically had a fun time with this boat.

Well during my habitation at third base a husband and wife team from Atlantic city New Jersey sat down. As the game proceeded the wife advised every one at the table, dealer and pit buzzard included that her husband had been a black jack dealer at the claridge casino in atlantic city and that he was an expert gambler. He sat down and started telling everyone what to do. Including yours truly. He became so intense he advised the pit critters that they should let him deal and he could show them how its done.

Well all three hours I just counted away and grinded my small lead. Mr. AC over there was loud and obnoxious and still telling everyone including thedealer how to play. I just smiled and kept quiet. Mr. AC started to point me out because I made a couple of basic strategy diversions with success. He in turn was lecturing me on basic strategy. I thanked him and went on counting and playing. The bell rang and the dealer anounced last hand. I was dealt a twelve against the dealers six. My bet was one unit and the true count was less than minus one. The AC pro had put out the last of his chips; forty bucks; in a hail mary play to recoup some of his losses. He also told every one else to bet it all too. Well every one stood on thier pat hands he had eighteen. I hit and took a four for a total of 16. The dealer hit and got a 4 and won. I was cracking up. MR AC blew up and started shouting at me about how my play continually changed the flow of cards and probably was the reason he dropped four hundred.

I pushed in my meager pile of red and two green chips and proudly said can I change these for less chips please. I smiled at MR AC and asked him politely to CALM DOWN and waved him off. Mrs AC pushed him away and muttered something about my ignorance and for Mr AC to watch out for his high blood pressure.

Let the ploppies do all the teaching and bragging it is great cover for us. LTC
 

phantom007

Well-Known Member
#8
Dream/Fantasy situation!

As the beer commercial said "it don't get any better then this". When an obnoxious player takes "your heat", the more the better!

I do hope and pray, that you had a Count in which you should have split 10's, AND DID!

phantom007
 
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