New guy

#1
Hi, I'm new to Nevada, And the casino Scene. I have read a book lent to me by a friend, But am curious as to what peoples thoughts are on a simple effective count system?

Thanks Ya'll

Ace High
 
#2
I think an effective count system would be a good thing.
If it is simple than it would be even better.

No complaints from me about simple and effective, seems to be a good combination.

Unbalanced, single-level no side-count KO is about as simple, yet effective, as you can get. HiLo would probably be next, then HI-OPT I if you want to go the side-count route, else RPC if you want to go multi-level.
 
#3
Simple Count *LINK*

Ace,

If you can get a hold of a copy of Blackbelt in Blackjack (out of print) by Arnold Snyder, this has the unbalanced Red 7 count. It is a very easy count to learn and utilize and has done well for me and my casual play over the last 4 or 5 years (always positive at years end).

I guess it will depend on what your goals are. For me currently, it is just a hobby that pays for itself. I enjoy getting out and playing at the tables and seeing all the different types of people. My wife enjoys playing and is very proficient at basic strategy and will sometimes follow my betting, but not too close.

As my kids get older and I can devote more time to playing, I might expand my play and start doing a true count for a true bet estimation with the Red 7, which is also covered in this book. Or I might change counts all together.

I have about six more years and I can then retire at 80% salary (I will then only be 51). At that time I might play more hours per year, persue tournament play or ??.

If you can't find the book visit the link below. The link contains alot of the text of the book and will give you a feel for the Red 7 count.

Good Luck,
Pill

P.S. Anyone know if Arnold has a new edition planned?
 
#4
Re: Simple Count *LINK*

Another good post I had bookmarked from the Card Counter Cafe is below.

It talks about comparing the Balanced versus Unbalanced counts including the Red 7.

I play mostly 6 deck in Michigan and as the link points out its downfall is playing it against single deck. Due to the fact that it "estimates" TC due to it's unbalanced design, the fewer decks in play the bigger this factor is. But even with this in mind, the unbalanced count is still something to consider for your first count.

Pill
 
#5
I would advise you to learn the Hi-Lo system with I18 indexes. That's all you ever need to play the game.

Now, if you are interested to make money from this game then as Don was saying in his book: "Technical ability comes through dedication and practice. But most of all, this game takes an incredible amount of heart. It takes an iron will and a fierce determination to succeed. It takes physical stamina, nerves of steel, and an inordinate amount of discipline and self-control. Without all of the latter, the former (technical skills) are meaningless."

Alex
 
#6
Re: Simple Count

Thanks for the link Phil, Looks like I have more home work.

I enjoy playing BJ, I would like to last a little longer with my money though. The guy that leant me the book wasn't up on it at all, so I need to learn a lot of things.
I am and have been reading the past post, in hopes to bring me somewhat up to date. And I see I need to overcome detractions, Such as Cocktail girls at the table, and the noisy players that want to talk. I need full focus at this time, Someday, I'm sure it will become second nature.

The HI-LO is what I have been working on.

Thanks, Again

Ace High
 
#7
If i were you i would give the K-O system a try and compare it to the Hi-Lo and use the one that seems easier or better for you...
 
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