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Johnrfla

Active Member
#1
Greetings,

I tried to find this topic but had no luck. I was playing at a table when a lady sat and watched. After about 4 or 5 hands she asked if she could piggyback my bet.I had no idea what that means and the dealer said " She wants place a bet on yours, but she can not tell you how to play the hand, and farther more you can decline." I thought ok sure why not??
Why would a person choose to do that? Maybe superstitious? To afraid to play themselves perhaps?
 

bjcount

Well-Known Member
#2
Johnrfla said:
Greetings,

I tried to find this topic but had no luck. I was playing at a table when a lady sat and watched. After about 4 or 5 hands she asked if she could piggyback my bet.I had no idea what that means and the dealer said " She wants place a bet on yours, but she can not tell you how to play the hand, and farther more you can decline." I thought ok sure why not??
Why would a person choose to do that? Maybe superstitious? To afraid to play themselves perhaps?
1st reason, if your having a good run of cards the person wants to get in on the action.

The 2nd, they want to ad a second hand but do not want to mess up the "flow of the cards"..... thats a VooDoo type of thing.:)

BJC
 
#3
actually

Johnrfla said:
Greetings,

I tried to find this topic but had no luck. I was playing at a table when a lady sat and watched. After about 4 or 5 hands she asked if she could piggyback my bet.I had no idea what that means and the dealer said " She wants place a bet on yours, but she can not tell you how to play the hand, and farther more you can decline." I thought ok sure why not??
Why would a person choose to do that? Maybe superstitious? To afraid to play themselves perhaps?
it means she finds you attractive and wants to make love to you, with her on top. :eek: :laugh:

CP
 

Katweezel

Well-Known Member
#5
Flow of cards

Johnrfla said:
LOL perhaps she did.:laugh: I do prefer playing one on one with the dealer especially if the cards are flowing in my favor.
There it goes again, The Magical Flow of Cards... (TMFoC)
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#6
Correction

Katweezel said:
There it goes again, The Magical Flow of Cards... (TMFoC)
It is the Mystical Magical Flow of the All Knowing Cards.

You just can not mess with things that are mystical, magical and all knowing.

ihate17
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#7
Seriously

You do get players who do not want to join while you are having a streak of good variance but want part of the action, so they bet on your hand.

If you do not want her to do this the best answer you can give a person like this is just tell her that someone betting on your hand has always been very unlucky for you.

Now two interesting "Tales From the Felt" concerning what can happen in this situation to the person betting on your hand.

Many years ago there was a high rolling drunk nut who only liked to play on $10 and $25 tables. He sits down next to me with about 20G in chips and asks if he could put a couple of thousand under my $100 bet. I get 9,9 vs dealer stiff, tell him I want to split (did not want to put an extra 2,000 out) and he goes along with me. We get a double and win all three bets and he tips me $200 extra saying that he would have only stayed.

Same guy, same table, he puts $5,000 under this woman's $25 bet and she gets a blackjack. She tells him to give her $1,000 or she will double for less.
The guy is yelling at her, the shift manager is trying to explain to him that it is her hand and she can play it anyway she wishes. The guy is pissed but he pays her off and she heads to the cage.

In other words, you would have her at your mercy. Just hitting an A,7 vs 9,10 or A or splitting 9's or many other BS plays would probably drive her away, or you could do something absurb.

ihate17
 

Guynoire

Well-Known Member
#8
There actually is an advantage to backbetting hands because on defensive splits the casino cannot force her to put up more money. For example if you're dealt an 8,8 v 10 and you split defensively but she doesn't want to put up more money the casino will either have to push her bet or allow it on one of the split 8's.
 

johndoe

Well-Known Member
#9
ihate17 said:
Same guy, same table, he puts $5,000 under this woman's $25 bet and she gets a blackjack. She tells him to give her $1,000 or she will double for less.
There are casinos that will allow you to double-down on a blackjack? I've never heard of such a thing.

Pretty dirty extortion, either way, but that's the risk you take. I'd say the bigger risk is someone not playing correctly. If you're back-betting a partner you trust, though, it's nice to have those lucrative defensive options as mentioned. (Also easier to wong in/out)

I don't care at all when people back-bet my hands though, happens all the time. If the count is negative you can even offer them the spot for a hand or two to burn cards.

I also had a monster shoe, sitting next to a guy betting big consistently, but holding to perfect basic strategy (no indexes though). He started back-betting my spot, then I his, while the whole table won hand after hand. A hell of a time. :)
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#10
Worst bet in the house perhaps

johndoe said:
There are casinos that will allow you to double-down on a blackjack? I've never heard of such a thing.


You know, I think most casinos will let you double a blackjack and obviously they all should because I can not think of a worse bet in a casino, Perhaps the reason you never heard of it is it is such a stupid move that even the worst of blackjack players do not do it.
I have seen it 3 times (for 3 losses). The last time was fairly recent, where this guy with a $200 bet gets blackjack. Now he has won $300 and has no risk any longer but he throws that away and decides to risk $400 to win just $100 more, returning him back to now a double the risk factor.

ihate17
 

beat320

Well-Known Member
#11
I've seen poor bums try to do it in AC because they only had like $3 in chips...that only seems to happen on Boardwalk properties though (maybe they live underneath the boardwalk?!)
 
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